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I hate non-ref cards.
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Well, I don't know quite frankly. I have just never used a GPU with the type of fan that the 6950 has before so I'm kind of worried about how loud it will be.
According to this site:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...n,2818-21.html

The 6950 is quieter than your current 460... and a 6970 is only a tad bit louder... you likely wouldn't notice the difference between the 3... I assume the 6950 would have higher fan speeds to keep temps good at 6970 performance... I dunno though. I think thats why the stock 6970 likely has a tiny bit more noise than the stock 6950... almost the same design all the way through...
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I hate non-ref cards.

gotta love the twin frozr and lightning card! never over 60c at load!
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I wanted to get the Twin Frozr III too.
But look what I found:

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I am considering to get 2x 6950 Twin Frozr III too.
But I found this:

Temps:http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1596910

Quote:
.)To answer my own question (in case it benefits anyone else) I picked up two Twin Frozr III's and I'm seeing 90c temps / 100% fan on the inside card. So no way these work for crossfire w/o some spacing between the cards.

I'm trying downclocking them now to reference 6950 speeds to see if that helps at all. So far after 5 min in BF2 the inside card is 79c (with the case open). Doesn't look good.

Unlockability:http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=672911

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.)THIS CARD WON'T UNLOCK PERIOD!!! This is a non-reference card so sorry but you are COMPLETELY out of luck. This card uses a custom MSI PCB which improves overclocking but disables unlocking the GPU. There is only 1 BIOS, not 2. Sorry for the bad news, but this wasn't a secret that this card couldn't be unlocked so don't go blaming MSI. It will overclock though far so try to get it to 1ghz to make up for the lack of unlocking. The cooler is also much better.

.)You guys don't understand that a REFERENCE 2gb model is the ONLY 6950 that will unlock. No other will if it's 1gb or a non-reference card. It must look like this with 2gb of VRAM. Otherwise it won't unlock period.

.)This is incorrect information so please refer to my previous post. It all depends on if the GPU has been laser cut or not; results are mixed for non-reference and 1GB PCBs.

So according to the red colored statement of the thread not every card is bound to just unlock or not it is rather a bit of a gamble if the concerned card has been laser cut or not.
So there are branches that were and others that weren´t laser cut by AMD so the odds of any 6950 unlocking depens on the possibility of it having been laser cut or not...according to the thread.

But according to techpower up MSI does have a high unlocking probability due to their tested cards (although I am not sure the numbers shown in the picture include the Twin Frorz III).So is the statement coming from the thread nonsense?Or did techpowerup just review cards of a branch that just wasn´t laser cut?

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post #15 of 22
I turned up the fan to 65% on my 6970 and it sounded like a Jet Engine shooting the warm air out the back

The GPU under load didn't hit more than 58C LOL. I game with a headset so I don't mind the noise, as long as my stuff is keeping cool I'm good.
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Ok so if the Twin Fozr III isn't a ref card, then there are still plenty of Ref cards to get. And seiously, if the OP wants quiet and was willing to shell out for an actual 6970 (about $100 more) then you can get a ref 6950, unlock to 6970 and get an aftermarket cooler of your choice... will work MUCH better than any factory OC'd 6970, if you get a decent enough cooler obviously... And your still saving money... I can't really see any reason for anyone like the members here, who know what they are doing, to get an actual 6970, unless they are afraid of the 1% to 3% chance of not unlocking... (Ref obviously... and 2GB Ref, don't forget its the 2GB Ref model only that unlocks)
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Unlocking depends on if the card has been laser cut or not.
Newer branches of the non ref Twin Frozr III for example do not all unlock anymore because AMD has fixed the unintended problem by laser cutting them.
So it is a gamble of what card you got.
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Oh... But is this just with the twin frozr or all 6950 models now? From the articles I've read, unlocking is as close to guaranteed as it can get... seems like 98/100 cards unlock without issues...
I haven't read anything about the laser cutting... got any articles on that? I'm interested in the read
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Unlocking depends on if the card has been laser cut or not.
Newer branches of the non ref Twin Frozr III for example do not all unlock anymore because AMD has fixed the unintended problem by laser cutting them.
So it is a gamble of what card you got.
I have yet to hear of a laser cut 6950. It's not like MSI gets the gpu and then disables the shaders by cutting the traces.


I have yet to hear of a 1GB or non-reference card not unlocking using the method in this guide.
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