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post #31 of 40
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Also, I have updated the original post outlining 3 options. I would like to hear from thraser/aj vs intel fanboy crew on which option I should take
post #32 of 40
Here come a few suggestions...
Hyper 212+ - $23.22 price match (PM)
x4 955 - $126.84 PM
M4A79XTD EVO (great board for price) - $90 PM, $80 AR - (8+2 VRM, Crossfire 8x-8x, great features for price)
Seagate 7200.12 1TB - $50 price match - that's right for a full $12 lower you get twice the space, and this is a pretty fast drive from personal experience as well
G.Skill Ripjaws 1600 CL7-8-7 2x2GB RAM - $49.88 PM - you'll never find a lower price on this RAM, not even in the states - and it's great quality, does 1600 6-8-6 easy
Compucase Blitz - $40.49 PM - better case for price IMO
ASUS DRW DVD drive - $18.70 PM

Total price of NCIX parts I have so far (not counting shipping, but that's cheaper as it is Canada -> Canada and not USA -> Canada with Newegg) = $399.13
Compared to the original Newegg.ca price (without shipping) for the equivalent parts I have on this list which is $464.73

See how much you're saving? $65.60 less for parts that are much better - heck you even get twice the HDD space. You just have to look in the right place

I'll be updating this more with edits but if you want more you can check it out for yourself by searching the part number at www.pricebat.ca and price matching in your NCIX shopping cart
Price match is amazing by the way
Edited by xd_1771 - 4/11/11 at 9:00pm
post #33 of 40
Haris, I like the build you put together, the reason to go for the better GPU is because it is in fact a BETTER GPU. Games run mostly off your graphics processor, plus the fact that it is 2GB of dedicated video memory as opposed to the 6850 which only has 1GB MAJOR difference.

Truth be told the x6 core will only benefit you in terms of gloating to your friends, otherwise if you want to go budget stick to the Phenom II x4 955BE which will be more than plenty for what you do with the system.

Upgrade your CPU cooler to a Hyper 212 or a Xigmatek Dark Knight
post #34 of 40
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Originally Posted by Haris75 View Post
What I Plan to Use the PC for
As mentioned above, my budget is around $750. I want this to be a solid gaming PC, although I am definitely not aiming for anything crazy. I really don't care if I cant run something like crysis at high settings. I am however, concerned about the ability to livestream while playing something like SC2 at medium settings, without my framerate dropping below 30 fps

*UPDATE*
Alright so now I am at a crossroad, I can go with either of these set ups

Case Like it

CPU Like it

GPU Like it

PSU Like it

HDD Like it but you should look for one with a 64mb cache speed not too much of a difference, FYI Sata II and Sata III has 0 noticeable speed difference with those types of HDD's its noticeable when you get into SSD drive, but you don't need one for your budget build.

Ram Like it

Mobo Like it

Optical Like it, its all you need

CPU Cooler I Like it

Current cost: $809 + S/H

VS.

Changes in:
CPU +$75 change from Phenon II X4 to i5-2500 Really don't bother it isn't necessary see Note #1 below

Mobo +$14 Nope, doesn't do it for me, see Note #1

GPU -$74 Change from 2GB 6950 to 1GB 6850 Don't consider it IMO

Total Cost: $828 + S/H

NOTE #1: Keep in mind when you go to an Intel system you need to get a triple channel RAM kit which will of course be more expensive than the dual channel kit

Clearly, In going for the better processor I would have to make a pretty big sacrifice on the video card, is it really worth it? Yes the video card is worth it, better video card = better game performance, CPU's don't significantly increase gaming performance compared to a better GPU

The last option for me would be to spend an extra $100 and get the 2GB 6950 anyway. That would sum up to $898, which is a bit higher than my original budget, although I can be convinced to go this route if anyone wants to tell me why I should take this route. Stay with the 6950 any way you go, you will NOT be dissapointed

Thanks for all the help everyone
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Edited by ajmidd12 - 4/11/11 at 9:05pm
post #35 of 40
If anyone bothered to notice my post above near the top of this thread my NCIX suggestions, not counting the shipping cost, have saved him already over $65 for parts that are completely superior (including 2x the HDD space and an 8x-8x Crossfire motherboard)

Just have to look in the right place. In Canada, there are plenty of places to look.

OP If you'd like I could continue on and finish off with a full build suggestion if you want. I'm pretty confident I could fit your entire build (with the Phenom II x4 and 6950) at below $700.
post #36 of 40
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Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post
If anyone bothered to notice my post above near the top of this thread my NCIX suggestions, not counting the shipping cost, have saved him already over $65 for parts that are completely superior (including 2x the HDD space and an 8x-8x Crossfire motherboard)

Just have to look in the right place. In Canada, there are plenty of places to look.

OP If you'd like I could continue on and finish off with a full build suggestion if you want. I'm pretty confident I could fit your entire build (with the Phenom II x4 and 6950) at below $700.
Yes I've been looking at it/making changes for a while now, I'm just really really slow, thank you for this

Edit: Oh man, I didn't see the last part of your post. If you could fit the CPU and GPU while having the system under around $750, I would be eternally grateful
Edited by Haris75 - 4/11/11 at 9:07pm
post #37 of 40
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Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post
If anyone bothered to notice my post above near the top of this thread my NCIX suggestions, not counting the shipping cost, have saved him already over $65 for parts that are completely superior (including 2x the HDD space and an 8x-8x Crossfire motherboard)

Just have to look in the right place. In Canada, there are plenty of places to look.

OP If you'd like I could continue on and finish off with a full build suggestion if you want. I'm pretty confident I could fit your entire build (with the Phenom II x4 and 6950) at below $700.
True, I don't usually buy online cause I get such wicked deals from a local shop. Glad to see you're also helping him though

@Haris, I accept your challenge, but will do so tomorrow AM, I'm tired and going to bed either way xd will take care of you.
post #38 of 40
I'm just helping since I have time and happen to be a Canadian shopper as well

Since only two more pieces of the puzzle would be needed to finish my build for you I decided to go ahead and finish. Note the change in video card, I picked it over a 6950 because this is a massively good deal for a GTX 560 Ti right now which is equal to or better than an HD 6950. At the moment nVidia also seems to have this big advantage over AMD/ATI in Starcraft II for some unknown reason (driver optimizations?).

Hyper 212+ - $23.22 price match (PM)
x4 955 - $126.84 PM
M4A79XTD EVO (great board for price) - $90 PM, $80 AR - (8+2 VRM, Crossfire 8x-8x, great features for price)
Seagate 7200.12 1TB - $50 price match
G.Skill Ripjaws 1600 CL7-8-7 2x2GB RAM - $49.88 PM
Compucase Blitz - $40.49 PM
ASUS DRW DVD drive - $18.70 PM
Seasonic S12II 620 - $65 (sale deal!)
PNY GTX 560 Ti 822Mhz - $220, $200 AR (sale deal!)

Your total cost is on target within the window I predicted:
$684.13
$654.13 after rebate

(plus shipping/handling, NCIX is Canadian based so this would be much cheaper than Newegg)

Hope you enjoy the $100+ saved Get an SSD with the extra cash, or get that LGA1155 (Sandy Bridge) combo you've been wanting (though with AMD FX Series/Bulldozer coming out so soon... ). Plenty of flexibility from the original budget here.
Edited by xd_1771 - 4/11/11 at 9:19pm
post #39 of 40
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...Hope you enjoy the $100+ saved Get an SSD with the extra cash, or get that LGA1155 (Sandy Bridge) combo you've been wanting (though with AMD FX Series/Bulldozer coming out so soon... )
Hopefully the Bulldozer wipes the floor with the Sandy Bridge. At least then we won't have to see all the "You should go with Sandy Bridge" Intel fanboys here. Don't think I can't see you guys lurking below

The 560Ti has slower stock clock speeds compared to the 6950, I still recommend the 6950 or 6970, but then again I'm biased since I own one
Edited by ajmidd12 - 4/11/11 at 9:16pm
post #40 of 40
sorry didnt even see this was amd forum it was in latest thread last night. I could build Sandy bridge for about $80 more at my local dealer (microcenter). It would NOT be a extra $200. It would be two times the performace, the SSD could be added later. Also SSD prices will continue to lower in the next 12 months. But I would agree if this is the amsolute budjet and you couldnt spring $70 in the next 6 months for a SSD then your system is fine and you also are a rare OCN user. Most people here on forum do upgrades often and if that is the case you would want a soild CPU so to build onto.

here is another CPU chart
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/d...High,2418.html
 
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