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You need to up your CPU/NB speed up as close to 3GHz as you can or more if possible.
 
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alright, well I have my ref clock at 254 right now. Also, when testing with prime I test the same exact way I did with the cpu correct? And if it is unstable will prim95 just either not run or shut off like it did with the cpu too?

I know these are noob questions :-D

and lastly, is there a program that will tell me my NB temp?
Yes use the Blend test, should pass 12-24 hrs for complete stability. LinX for OC'd ram as well as Intel Burn also helps.

When running prime95,
BSOD usually means a lack of Vcore
"Worker has failed" error usually means a lack of CPU/NB Voltage or Dram voltage

If prime shows an error, yes just shut it down and make adjustments.

You should have PC Probe II (Asus site) for monitoring temps and voltages, as it's generally considered the one to use. I also run HWMonitor (Pro version) and don't remember how it's labeled in the free version sorry. Just compare the voltages and temps before a test between PCPII and HWMonitor and that should answer your question. If your mobo has the sensor for the NB it will show with either PCPII or the Pro version of HWMonitor. (see pic) My CHIV has them both.

 
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http://www.overclock.net/general-pro...-settings.html

quick individual prime95 tests.
if you get an error on a core or two, your cpu-nb or ram volts are too low or, your ram's speed is too fast or the timings too tight. been my experience before.
as far as nb speed, the benching i saw(i'll dig it up) shows the best nb speed at 2600 on phenom 2.
edit when i find the post. *edit* original from overclockers.com http://www.overclockers.com/the-impo...the-phenom-ii/
i dont have the seperate cpu-nb voltage control. i have only the vddnb overvoltage tab.
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now, with the benchmarks above, will they apply to every computer/same chip the same way? Or will some run better at high and other run better at lower clocks on the NB?

Right now I have my NB at 2794mhz and get an error in prime 95 after a few minutes. My dilemma now is do I up the voltage and look for stability/higher clocks? Or should I go with the posted benchmarks above, and try to get as close to 2600 as possible?
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now, with the benchmarks above, will they apply to every computer/same chip the same way? Or will some run better at high and other run better at lower clocks on the NB?

Right now I have my NB at 2794mhz and get an error in prime 95 after a few minutes. My dilemma now is do I up the voltage and look for stability/higher clocks? Or should I go with the posted benchmarks above, and try to get as close to 2600 as possible?
It won't be the same. Every system will have it's own needs and demands, while it may be close, each machine may need slightly different voltage. Just because it works on one machine is no guarantee it'll work on another. There's too many variables in chipsets.

2800MHz may be the limit for that chip, but you can try to get to 3000MHz to see for yourself. If it was me I'd stabilize what you have now at the 27xxMHz. Make a note of settings, than try for more AFTER it' is stable.
 
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when i mean it crashes i was running it at 1.15 or 1.2 on the cpu/nb voltage. Right now I have the system set at 2540mhz on the NB and 1.15v. So far almost 2 hours in and its still going.

And when i asked on whether it applies to all chips i meant the clock for maximum performance. not the voltage. I know that voltage will vary system to system but is the 2600mhz NB for max performance a consistency between most chips. More or less so I have an idea for what to expect or what to shoot for when it comes to the frequency itself.
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when i mean it crashes i was running it at 1.15 or 1.2 on the cpu/nb voltage. Right now I have the system set at 2540mhz on the NB and 1.15v. So far almost 2 hours in and its still going.

And when i asked on whether it applies to all chips i meant the clock for maximum performance. not the voltage. I know that voltage will vary system to system but is the 2600mhz NB for max performance a consistency between most chips. More or less so I have an idea for what to expect or what to shoot for when it comes to the frequency itself.
Sorry I wasn't understanding completely. Hope I do now lol. Yes the frequency should be fairly consistent. And for your chip I believe the max freq is closer to 2800MHz max (maybe even 3000MHz). The higher the better. Don't be surprised if it takes up to 1.3-1.35v on the CPU/NB voltage. If you can get away with less that's a bonus. (Especially running 8GBs) I would consider 1.4-1.45v as max.

If while running prime95 it fails with a "Worker has Failed" error, this is usually a lack of CPU/NB voltage or lack of Dram voltage.
A BSOD usually means lack of Vcore.

I usually try increasing the CPU/NB voltage first. If that won't help than increase the Dram voltage. I believe all DDR3 can handle up to 1.7-1.75v.
xd_1771 could help you if that becomes a concern as he's the resident Ram expert here at OCN.

I hope this will be of some help.
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alright well, Im still stabilizing the NB at 2794mhz. Currently have it set at 2.2000v with cpu/nb LLC enabled.

My issue now is, however, that even when I change voltages, and when I enabled LLC none of the voltages in HWMonitor changed. Does the free version not have NB voltage/info on it?

With the voltage set at 2.2000v in the BIOS and CPU/NB LLC Enabled, I am assuming the voltage should be somewhere around 2.5v or so if it follows the same pattern and the CPU LLC. can someone confirm this for me?


and lastly, I current have my RAM downclocked below stock to make sure that the ram isnt whats causing instability. My question with this is... even if I have the RAM at stock or below stock specs, is it possible that I might have to increase DRAM voltage because of the overclocked NB?
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alright well, Im still stabilizing the NB at 2794mhz. Currently have it set at 2.2000v with cpu/nb LLC enabled.

My issue now is, however, that even when I change voltages, and when I enabled LLC none of the voltages in HWMonitor changed. Does the free version not have NB voltage/info on it?

With the voltage set at 2.2000v in the BIOS and CPU/NB LLC Enabled, I am assuming the voltage should be somewhere around 2.5v or so if it follows the same pattern and the CPU LLC. can someone confirm this for me?


and lastly, I current have my RAM downclocked below stock to make sure that the ram isnt whats causing instability. My question with this is... even if I have the RAM at stock or below stock specs, is it possible that I might have to increase DRAM voltage because of the overclocked NB?
1st. I really don't remember if the free version is different as far as showing the NB temp or voltage. I don't think it makes a difference. You can confirm if your mobo even has the sensors by comparing HWMonitor to Asus PC Probe II. If your board has them, PCPII will show them for sure.
If HWMonitor is NOT showing the changes you've made, it is possible that maybe it became corrupt and may need to be reinstalled. I've had that happen a few times myself. One more reason most Asus users have more trust with PC Probe II. It seems a little less glitchy.

2nd. Yes the CPU/NB Voltage may have that big of fluctuation, but usually only between the Min and Max as in after a reboot. If HWMonitor was started well after a reboot the difference may be lower till you start a stress test. Than it will act very similar the to Vcore.

3rd. Yes an increase in Dram voltage might be necessary. Two reasons, 1st because of the increased NB Freq, 2nd because your running 8GBs. Running more than 4GBs can be another reason for needing additional Dram voltage depending on the mobo. Being you have it under clocked I don't think it would be necessary but I wouldn't rule it out completely.
 
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ok thanks Sandman. Right now I am on my brothers computer as I'm running prim on my rig. As of now, prime95 has been running for 3 1/2 hours and still going with no problems. CPU/NB voltage is as I states at 1.2000v in the BIOS.

And when you say corrupt.... do you mean HWMonitor? Or windows? And PCprobe I assume is on the support disc I got with my motherboard correct?
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FX 8350 Asus Crosshair V Formula EVGA GTX 770 SC ACX 8Gb Corsair Vengeance Pro 1866 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Plextor M5S 128Gb(OS) Plextor M5S 256Gb(RAID0) Plextor M5S 256Gb(RAID0) Western Digital Cavair Green 2Tb 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
ASUS 24x DVD RW Corsair H80i Windows 7 64-bit LG 24MP56HQ-P IPS 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung SyncMaster B2230 Corsair K70 Corsair TX650 V2 Cooler Master CM Storm Trooper 
MouseAudio
Razer DeathAdder 3.5G Panasonic 500w stereo 
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