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Well, it's good to know that if I actually had a $1000 to blow on video cards, I would know where to put it.

But I don't
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post #112 of 175
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Originally Posted by Horsemama1956 View Post
Whats even stranger is there are a few posters in the Hardforum thread WITH 580s saying that it's an impressive feat without whining about it being unfair and what not.
It is always impressive. Still don't want it We did bring up valid points though about the lack of TriSLi / TriFire / Quad Fire setups that fit the 1000$ budget.

On a side note, Levesque is on their forums claiming we are trolling him, thats just really sad. Very delusional.
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post #113 of 175
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Originally Posted by RagingCain View Post
It is always impressive. Still don't want it We did bring up valid points though about the lack of TriSLi / TriFire / Quad Fire setups that fit the 1000$ budget.

On a side note, Levesque is on their forums claiming we are trolling him, thats just really sad. Very delusional.
The difference is you can recommend a sandy bridge system in the AMD forum if someone wants the best for the money without being called a rabid fanboy over there.

As for the other suggestions. Again it's just a limited showing of the best cards out right now that total $1000. Of course you can make different combination, but you should be able to come to your own conclusions by reading reviews for those setups. And it's already been mention, but I think 570s/480s would run into VRAM issues as well.

Clearly if you were running a smaller resolution and lower amounts of AA, then those options would make sense. It was just an article for fun. You really see how crazy and fanatical some people are with stuff like this.

And it's fine if you don't want it, but you can also get your point across without being irritating while most other seems to fail at that.
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post #114 of 175
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...g,2865-12.html

CrossFire came out with a huge overall scaling lead over SLI, and removing the one title that didn’t reflect that average would have made the lead even bigger. Superior scaling allowed two mid-priced Radeon HD 6950s to approximate the performance of two higher-cost GeForce GTX 570s, while three HD 6950s took the performance win over three GTX 570s.


three 570's can't beat 3 6950's(1408 SP/800/1250), so there's no way they would hold up to 6990+6970 either. it would be closer than the 580's but still lose.
Edited by FLCLimax - 4/12/11 at 9:12am
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Originally Posted by RagingCain View Post
Yes VRAM issues comes into play at the res ON all nVidia cards save for the newer 3GB GTX 580s. Which you can't afford two under 1000$. The way this article seems was to highlight the quality you can get from a 6990+6970 setup. Which is fine, but the $1000 stuff chucked into the article seems silly and not really useful, and then the author saying "take a kneel nVidia?" just goes to show me that Brent got the outcome he personally wanted. Instead of being what a good reviewer should be and thats being impartial. No overclocked GTX 580s were even compared?

Besides that little stuff, you can get 6970 x 3 for under a grand. You can get 4x 6950s for under 1k$ and then mod them or not to run like 6970s. Its okay to vram limit the GTX 580, but not the 480? Last time I checked the GTX 480 has 1.5GB of RAM as well as the GTX 580. When you really know a bit about the GPUs, articles like this are easily scrutinized.

Look at it from a more unbiased angle, and you see the article slowly losing merit. Had the article said, 6990+6970 vs. a GTX 580 SLi, then clearly there would not be an issue, but the truth is, there is even more performance to be had for a thousand dollars.

You take off the fanboy glasses and both parties can see this is true. 3 very good GPUs will beat 2 very good GPUs. Factor in price, and it definitely makes the 3 GPU solution a much wiser deal if you are not particular on brand/manufacturer. I bought my GPUs long before any of the 69xx series came out, I also wouldn't buy ATI, but thats just my opinion.

There is no point in trying to make us feel bad for having 2 (or more) GTX 580s.
LOL! Just because you feel bad (about buying 2 580's) doesn't mean anyone is trying to make you.

Awww, so people shouldn't talk about hardware because they might make you feel bad?
    
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post #116 of 175
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LOL! Just because you feel bad (about buying 2 580's) doesn't mean anyone is trying to make you.

Awww, so people shouldn't talk about hardware because they might make you feel bad?
I think you misunderstand, I do not feel bad. I personally love my GTX 580s. I am going to miss them when they have been sold. The article and fanboy alike would have me believe I am a fool to purchase them. Please read in context. No person on this website or any other makes me feel bad about my setup Accept maybe Defoler, I remember when he had SLI.

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Originally Posted by FLCLimax View Post
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...g,2865-12.html

CrossFire came out with a huge overall scaling lead over SLI, and removing the one title that didn’t reflect that average would have made the lead even bigger. Superior scaling allowed two mid-priced Radeon HD 6950s to approximate the performance of two higher-cost GeForce GTX 570s, while three HD 6950s took the performance win over three GTX 570s.


three 570's can't beat 3 6950's(1408 SP/800/1250), so there's no way they would hold up to 6990+6970 either. it would be closer than the 580's but still lose.
2560x1600 resolution works differently than 5760x1080/1200 and all cards still struggle regardless of VRAM.

Secondly, by your point alone, the 6950 (modded or non-modded) in quadfire may be the best bang for the buck at $1000. Both cases merit at least a test.
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Buying a 580 ( or for this matter 2 of them) and worrying about power consumption is a lot like buying a Ferrari 458 and worrying about fuel economy. Pointless IMO.
    
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No one is wrong but I agree the article did not give nvidia's side the best chance as who runs their 580's stock? When you consider that the average fps for both were all within 5 fps it makes you all look like little children, crying about nothing. Get whichever brand you wish. Nvidia for me as I feel they run way more smoothly. Others its Ati. Give the fanboyism a rest.
you seem mostly rational, but also a bit absurd. complain about 580 being stock, but the 6970 was underclocked.

6970's don't run at 830/1250 even in the OC position the 6970 was only at stock engine clock and still 1250 memory.
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You are completely trying to suppress any alternative reason. What if someone cares only for premium? Some people don't buy junk, they buy quality, it would make sense to also cater to their tastes as well. You want to shut out everything else, that is absolute stupidity at best. Sometimes the cheap way isn't the best way despite being the most attractive route.
He is not trying to suppress anything of the sort. If someone cares only for "premium" then they will look to another review that doesn't take cost into account at all, no? That is the point you are trying to make is it not? It seems you are so far off topic and unable to see past your fanboy blinders that you simply lack the ability to make sense at all. Your argument through out this entire thread is completely out of the parameters for discussion based on your disregard for the reviews basis...Cost Comparison!
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Neat article, nice to know what gets you the most gpu power for $1000.

3 way 570's would have been interesting to see but i dont think they would have faired well at that res with less vram than the 580s.

And even in that price bracket i still care what gets me the most performance for the money
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