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If I went for the cheaper Athlon II X4 640, which isn't much different, and is cheaper (not to mention a Phenom is probably overkill for me), with the 5870 my recommended figure is under 500w, which I'd be OK with.
If you are using an online PSU calculator then you will be WELL within your limits long as the PSU is a decent one
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My HD 5850 did 1Ghz/1250Mhz. Almost all HD 5850 with voltage control could hit 1Ghz. Also dont see many GTX460s over 900Mhz so given that stock they are @ 675Mhz vs 725Mhz (50Mhz) difference a 100Mhz difference OCed is going to make the gap even bigger. I have also owned GTX470 @ 800Mhz and HD 5850 is a better card.
Zealot you might note that the 460's have voltage ceiling locked in BIOS at either 1087 or 1100mV. With that voltage max overclock is regularly around 900Mhz core clock. It isn't uncommon to mod the BIOS and hit 1GHz though. Just not as many people go to the trouble, myself included. Clock for clock I'd still take the 5850 if I had to get rid of all my cards but one. The 460's scale better, have PhysX, and fold though.


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If a 5870 is available at that price NORMALLY (the normal price is £157), I'm sold. But aren't OCUK and XFX's customer service meant to be terrible?

Power draw for the system with 5870 according to a power calculator is recommended to be 463w with my current dual core.

When I upgrade to the 965 (based on worst case scenario of 140w) that changes to 532w. Too much for my PSU methinks.

My real worry is the power draw. I don't intend on a PSU upgrade any time soon.
I'm no PSU guru but I'll just say that my SLI 460's run fine overclocked pretty heavy on a SeaSonic 620watt PSU. If that is a quality 530watt PSU I would be highly suprised to learn you had any troubles running a stock 5870 off it.

If there is question of the quality of the PSU, I'd replace it first.
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The only worry is when I do upgrade my CPU late this year. I think I'll get the 5870. Now to wait for the parentals to come home and see if they'll order it early (its for my birthday next month)
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If there is question of the quality of the PSU, I'd replace it first.
What he said

PSU is most important component when getting a decent setup. If you have a cheap PSU, it can cause all sorts of issues.
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That benchmark is a load of crap. It says a 480 beats 460s sli for a start. And you would
Need to be A retard to buy the non-reference 5850 since theres no voltage controll which you really need to make it shine. Just buy a 460 hawk, save up for a 650w psu (which you are going to need down the road anyway) then a second 460 hawk. They are going to outlast the 5850 by handleing tessalation in dx11 better, and they are just better in sli anyway. The hawks come pre overclocked and nearly match a 470, but use less voltage and put out less heat.
    
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The only worry is when I do upgrade my CPU late this year. I think I'll get the 5870. Now to wait for the parentals to come home and see if they'll order it early (its for my birthday next month)
My birthday next month too!

Good luck talking the rents into an early prez
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A shame you posted this so late, I had a 20% discount code for an XFX 5870 last month, £159, I would have happily donated it.
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post #58 of 72
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A shame you posted this so late, I had a 20% discount code for an XFX 5870 last month, £159, I would have happily donated it.
Awww check out the generosity of some of the folks here!

Maybe you can find another one on MyVoucherCodes or somewhere
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post #59 of 72
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If a 5870 is available at that price NORMALLY (the normal price is £157), I'm sold. But aren't OCUK and XFX's customer service meant to be terrible?

Power draw for the system with 5870 according to a power calculator is recommended to be 463w with my current dual core.

When I upgrade to the 965 (based on worst case scenario of 140w) that changes to 532w. Too much for my PSU methinks.

My real worry is the power draw. I don't intend on a PSU upgrade any time soon.
Since you admit upgrading the CPU might cause some bad turmoil between the parts in your PC, a PSU upgrade should just be the next choice. My current PC under load draws around 515W with the GPU at stock and I believe around 530-550 with it OC'ed.

You don't have to go overkill with the PSU (like I have done), but just look for a good 600-650W unit.
 
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Reviews:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/n...he-200-king/10
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...-review-9.html

5850 beat 460 in SLI (I'm sure this is when first released on beta drivers)
So you're saying that I'm doing it all wrong, that I should be using my GTX 260 to game on my GTX 460 for PhysX, since the 260 is faster?


The 460 is close enough to the 5850 that it doesn't really matter. But what you get from nVidia is quality drivers, and that's worth more than whatever 5-10% improvement you may get from a 5850.
    
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