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Gaming laptops never cease to amuse me. Buy a $1000 laptop with a decent GPU and build a $1500 desktop with CF 6950s instead of spending $3000+. That setup will rape any laptop currently configurable at this time, both in terms of portability and gaming performance.
haha really... a crossfire desktop setup is more portable than a laptop?

...

a tower, separate monitor, keyboard, mouse and whatever else you need is more portable than a single laptop?

what are you people smoking? coz i want some, those delusions are amazing.

i work away in the mines of western australia, and for accommodation they put us is "donga's", which is basically a converted shipping container. i fly in and out on a chartered plane, usually a Foccer 100 from Skywest. we have a 7kg carry on limit with a 10kg luggage limit.

so for people like me, heavy gamers, these beasty gaming laptops are not only ideal, they are usually essential to play my favourite games while im away.

i currently own the ASUS G73JH and its great, although i'd still love more power, games like GTA4 still struggle. now i probably wouldnt go and spend money on Alienware but if there was another option with similar specs i would consider it.

lol, "you can build a deskptop PC that compares to this or beats it for less and its more portable" ... funny argument. but ignorance is bliss guys, keep smoking and dreaming.
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haha really... a crossfire desktop setup is more portable than a laptop?

...

a tower, separate monitor, keyboard, mouse and whatever else you need is more portable than a single laptop?

what are you people smoking? coz i want some, those delusions are amazing.

i work away in the mines of western australia, and for accommodation they put us is "donga's", which is basically a converted shipping container. i fly in and out on a chartered plane, usually a Foccer 100 from Skywest. we have a 7kg carry on limit with a 10kg luggage limit.

so for people like me, heavy gamers, these beasty gaming laptops are not only ideal, they are usually essential to play my favourite games while im away.

i currently own the ASUS G73JH and its great, although i'd still love more power, games like GTA4 still struggle. now i probably wouldnt go and spend money on Alienware but if there was another option with similar specs i would consider it.

lol, "you can build a deskptop PC that compares to this or beats it for less and its more portable" ... funny argument. but ignorance is bliss guys, keep smoking and dreaming.
You do know what setup means, correct? As in, multiple pieces of hardware. Laptop + desktop. The sub-$1000 laptop would definitely be more portable than a gaming laptop and would have better battery life.

Your situation is very rare and I would definitely say that a gaming laptop would be something that would be worth a lot of money for you. For the majority of people, they could buy a laptop with a 5650 or GT 335M and be perfectly fine while doing light gaming here and there, while still getting major gaming in at home. There's no reason to relegate yourself to a laptop, unless someone is in your situation where travel is a major concern.
    
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Gaming laptops never cease to amuse me. Buy a $1000 laptop with a decent GPU and build a $1500 desktop with CF 6950s instead of spending $3000+. That setup will rape any laptop currently configurable at this time, both in terms of portability and gaming performance.
It'll "rape" a lighter system with a built in keyboard, mouse, display, and batter all in a smaller form factor, in portability, how, exactly?

I'd love to see you take up LOL_Wut_Axel's self-imposed challenge, and come up with a cheaper/equally priced solution that is more portable. Heck, I won't even make you count the weight of the frame backpack you'd need to carry around the system, battery, and display holding structure. Good luck!

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haha really... a crossfire desktop setup is more portable than a laptop?

...

a tower, separate monitor, keyboard, mouse and whatever else you need is more portable than a single laptop?

what are you people smoking? coz i want some, those delusions are amazing.

i work away in the mines of western australia, and for accommodation they put us is "donga's", which is basically a converted shipping container. i fly in and out on a chartered plane, usually a Foccer 100 from Skywest. we have a 7kg carry on limit with a 10kg luggage limit.

so for people like me, heavy gamers, these beasty gaming laptops are not only ideal, they are usually essential to play my favourite games while im away.

i currently own the ASUS G73JH and its great, although i'd still love more power, games like GTA4 still struggle. now i probably wouldnt go and spend money on Alienware but if there was another option with similar specs i would consider it.

lol, "you can build a deskptop PC that compares to this or beats it for less and its more portable" ... funny argument. but ignorance is bliss guys, keep smoking and dreaming.
Look into Clevos, mate. Sager is the one the serves them, mostly, up in the US. Specifically, you'll want to look at the x7200, as that'll fix all of your desires for more power.


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Apart from the fact that there's no point in doing what you just said. If you wanna game at a LAN party, there's probably monitors there already in place. If you wanna game at a friend's house, you connect it to the TV. There's simply no point in this laptop; I wouldn't even call it a laptop at all.
You're free to call it the Queen of France for all that it matters. Besides that, you said that you're better off making a mini-ITX desktop. Show us the proof that you can provide the same quality of service at the same price or less, and your point shall stand.

Also, assuming that some magical fairy will drop off a monitor for you to use when you want to go game at a LAN party is wishful thinking at best (and a great way to sit on the side lines bummed out, or with a brand new monitor from a local Best Buy or whereabouts for your assumptions). Assuming that your friend has a TV able to connect to your laptop, and that he'll let you do as much (if you're not smart enough to bring your own display....), is one heck of an assumption to make.

Oh, and what about coffee shop gaming? Gaming in the back of a car? How about editing a spreadsheet on a bus? Or what about when you're waiting at a bus stop, and want to finish your presentation? Does the magical monitor fairy, or your friend with his ever-helpful TV, show up to give you assistance in that case?

Face it, buddy: You merely have an irrational hatred for desktop replacement systems. Accept that it is irrational, or prove that it is rational by providing evident reasons for as much. Thanks, and good luck with that.

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You do know what setup means, correct? As in, multiple pieces of hardware. Laptop + desktop.

Your situation is very rare and I would definitely say that a gaming laptop would be something that would be worth a lot of money for you. For the majority of people, they could buy a laptop with a 5650 or GT 335M and be perfectly fine while doing light gaming here and there, while still getting major gaming in at home. There's no reason to relegate yourself to a laptop, unless someone is in your situation where travel is a major concern.
To clarify, you, specifically, stated as follows:
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Buy a $1000 laptop with a decent GPU and build a $1500 desktop with CF 6950s instead of spending $3000+. That setup will rape any laptop currently configurable at this time, both in terms of portability and gaming performance.
I fully agree that you can build a better preforming desktop for two-thirds to, at your very best, half of the price as a similarly spec'd desktop replacement. In regards to the "setup", that is considered to be everything needed to game. You're free to include a USB mouse for the desktop replacement, as trackpad gaming is tricky stuff. Besides that, though, your statement is entirely incorrect in that regard. Heck, a loaded desktop tower by itself would easily out weight all but the heaviest of desktop replacements (Dell M2010 would tip the scale on some of the lighter "setups").

Besides that, there are people besides gtarmanrob and myself that, while they do not NEED this type of setup, they WANT it. They want the ease of portability and setup given by a laptop, whilst still being able to game well enough. Some people understand that it is as much of an investment as anything with a high price tag, and aren't so shortsighted as to see things with the day-by-day lense a lot of people wear nowadays. Anyways, I'd still love to see a "setup" that was lighter than a desktop replacement.
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Lol i did not know that you can sli nvidia cards in a laptop....
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It'll "rape" a lighter system with a built in keyboard, mouse, display, and batter all in a smaller form factor, in portability, how, exactly?

I'd love to see you take up LOL_Wut_Axel's self-imposed challenge, and come up with a cheaper/equally priced solution that is more portable. Heck, I won't even make you count the weight of the frame backpack you'd need to carry around the system, battery, and display holding structure. Good luck!
Reading comprehension evades yet another person. A setup does not involve one piece of hardware. I factored a sub-$1000 laptop with a dGPU into the equation. Using a gaming laptop as your sole system simply does not make sense, unless you live on the road.
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Oh, and what about coffee shop gaming? Gaming in the back of a car? How about editing a spreadsheet on a bus? Or what about when you're waiting at a bus stop, and want to finish your presentation? Does the magical monitor fairy, or your friend with his ever-helpful TV, show up to give you assistance in that case?
Good luck with doing any of those things away from a power outlet; you won't last for more than an hour without switchable graphics.
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Lol i did not know that you can sli nvidia cards in a laptop....
As well as crossfire some AMD cards, mate. There is a quickly growing sector of desktop replacement computers that are starting to chip away at the desktop computer's hold on the gaming field. Laptops have already utterly destroyed desktop's in the student, home, and business area. There really isn't much left for desktop units, honestly. Good riddance, I say, personally.

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Reading comprehension evades yet another person. A setup does not involve one piece of hardware. I factored a sub-$1000 laptop with a dGPU into the equation. Using a gaming laptop as your sole system simply does not make sense, unless you live on the road.
I've already dealt with your incorrect assumptions in my previous post, but to retouch upon them, you're factoring in 3,000$ in the computer alone, as well as 1,000$ in accessories for a 3,500$ setup that will preform better, in more locations. You're free to purchase a 300$ netbook for any location that you require computer access which lacks a power outlet, and still come in well under budget.

Also, I'd LOVE to see what sub-grand laptop you can find that has a dedicated graphics card that'll be worth a pinch of cake in a year. I suggest looking at Clevo-based systems as they'll usually get you the best system for the lowest price (you can get a desktop-CPU based crossfire unit for under three thousand easily).

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Good luck with doing any of those things away from a power outlet; you won't last for more than an hour without switchable graphics.
I've yet to see a coffee shop/restaurant around here that does not have power outlets that, when requested, can be used. I happen to have a 1000w sinewave inverter in my car that allows me to run my "setup" as required. And any times you cannot get access to a power supply, you can switch to the integrated graphics, as the MX17r3 allows, and as I have already posted (is this the reading comprehension issue you've been mentioning thus far?).
Edited by Guswut - 4/12/11 at 5:39pm
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I've yet to see a coffee shop/restaurant around here that does not have power outlets that, when requested, can be used. I happen to have a 1000w sinewave inverter in my car that allows me to run my "setup" as required. And any times you cannot get access to a power supply, you can switch to the integrated graphics, as the MX17r3 allows, and as I have already posted (is this the reading comprehension issue you've been mentioning thus far?).
I know plenty about the M17xR3. I don't need to read your posts in order to know that it has switchable graphics.

Still, I wouldn't want to be caught dead with that thing and a power brick on my back. I carry around enough books on my back at school; my MBP is the perfect weight for my purposes (6lb w/PSU). The M17x/M18x is about as far as the word "portable" can stretch. At what point does it become non-portable? 15 pounds?

IMO, the portable laptop + desktop is the best setup in regards to value, portability, and overall performance. You seem to be misunderstanding me when I say portability as I am not advocating lugging a desktop around. You can get gaming done on a $1000 laptop. It won't have the prettiest of visuals, but it will get the job done. It will still be an enjoyable gaming experience. On top of that, it will also allow you to get a reasonable amount of other non-gaming related tasks done. Even with switchable graphics, I can't imagine the M18x lasting very long (3 hours, max).

If you can't deal with slightly less eye candy in exchange for better battery life, more portability, and a lower price, then an expensive gaming laptop is definitely for you.

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Also, I'd LOVE to see what sub-grand laptop you can find that has a dedicated graphics card that'll be worth a pinch of cake in a year. I suggest looking at Clevo-based systems as they'll usually get you the best system for the lowest price (you can get a desktop-CPU based crossfire unit for under three thousand easily).
You could always buy another one next year. It's only $1000! I'd imagine that the people spending $3k+ aren't going to stick with their systems for very long either; if they're buying that expensive of a system in the first place, they are bound to be early upgraders.

Anyway, Sager has a laptop for $1250 with a GTX 460M: the NP8150. It's a pretty good deal, but it doesn't have switchable graphics. I was actually thinking about getting one before I learned that I couldn't use Optimus.
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I know plenty about the M17xR3. I don't need to read your posts in order to know that it has switchable graphics.

Still, I wouldn't want to be caught dead with that thing and a power brick on my back. I carry around enough books on my back at school; my MBP is the perfect weight for my purposes (6lb w/PSU). The M17x/M18x is about as far as the word "portable" can stretch. At what point does it become non-portable? 15 pounds?

IMO, the portable laptop + desktop is the best setup in regards to value, portability, and overall performance. You seem to be misunderstanding me when I say portability as I am not advocating lugging a desktop around. You can get gaming done on a $1000 laptop. It won't have the prettiest of visuals, but it will get the job done. It will still be an enjoyable gaming experience. On top of that, it will also allow you to get a reasonable amount of other non-gaming related tasks done. Even with switchable graphics, I can't imagine the M18x lasting very long (3 hours, max).

If you can't deal with slightly less eye candy in exchange for better battery life, more portability, and a lower price, then an expensive gaming laptop is definitely for you.
Yea, in YOUR opinion. I don't have a problem with you thinking this laptop is useless, but to others, this is a godsend. Saying that this laptop has no place in anyone's life is truly ignorant.
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I know plenty about the M17xR3. I don't need to read your posts in order to know that it has switchable graphics.
Then why qualify your post stating otherwise, when you know that the MX18 will almost certainly be coming with switchable graphics?

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Still, I wouldn't want to be caught dead with that thing and a power brick on my back. I carry around enough books on my back at school; my MBP is the perfect weight for my purposes (6lb w/PSU). The M17x/M18x is about as far as the word "portable" can stretch. At what point does it become non-portable? 15 pounds?
The MacBook Pro is actually pretty oversized for what you get. Why didn't you go with something lighter, that also didn't cost twice as much as a normal laptop of the same level? Kettle, meet pot?

Besides that, the weight is not the limiting factor when it comes to portability (for me at least). The factor would be containment device limited, as I'd personally love a nineteen/twenty/twenty-two inch laptop. They just do not make backpacks to fit such laptops, and as I commonly use my motorcycle, I need something that'll fit onto my back.

Besides that, though, if you are even slightly in shape, the addition of a few pounds won't make that much of a difference unless you are walking to class (in which case you should think about investing in a bicycle, motorcycle, car, carpool seat, or a bus seat).

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IMO, the portable laptop + desktop is the best setup in regards to value, portability, and overall performance.
You are entirely wrong, in my opinion, as you are not factoring in the time of setting up both solutions, synchronizing both solutions, upgrading both solutions, etc.

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You seem to be misunderstanding me when I say portability as I am not advocating lugging a desktop around.
No, that was that other user that said as much. You are correct on this. Whoo, can't win them all, right?

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You can get gaming done on a $1000 laptop.
You can get mathematics done on a slide ruler. Would you like to be forced to forgo any sort of calculator in advanced mathematics, though?

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It won't have the prettiest of visuals
At that price, it'll likely be able to play modern games at medium (at best), low, or just barely. For a year, at most.

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but it will get the job done.
So will that slide ruler!

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It will still be an enjoyable gaming experience.
It'll be a bearable gaming experience at best, and a bother when, after nine months to a year, you need to retire your current setup and get a new one. Which means setting up a new system, dealing with possible hardware failures, getting your data synced, etc.

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On top of that, it will also allow you to get a reasonable amount of other non-gaming related tasks done.
On battery, you mean. See, the sticking point in your argument is that the battery life of these systems is horrid, etc. I've countered as much, using your own logic, by saying get a small cheap netbook for all things that require good battery life. My "setup" would then have a MUCH better battery life than your "setup", as well as being better at gaming remotely, too.

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Even with switchable graphics, I can't imagine the M18x lasting very long (3 hours, max).
In what situations are you going to find yourself away from a source of power for three hours? Most flights will give you access to a power port, no matter your class (even the no-class people, like us!) if you ask nicely. In a car, you can purchase a fifty dollar inverter and be on AC power until you run out of fuel in the tank. If you're taking a bus ride that is longer than three hours, you use your netbook (with a USB drive as the working directory for all of your work, for easy of data syncing).

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If you can't deal with slightly less eye candy in exchange for better battery life, more portability, and a lower price, then an expensive gaming laptop is definitely for you.
Or get the best of all worlds with my "setup" of a netbook and desktop replacement system. For cheaper, in the long run, too.

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You could always buy another one next year. It's only $1000!
Only 1,000$? I'm sorry, but money does not grow on trees out where I live. A good desktop replacement system will cost 3,500$ to 4,000$ at the very most, and will last four to five years of active gaming at medium or better. That's the cost of your laptop upgrades in less time, without even accounting for the cost of the desktop, upgrades to the desktop, and the additional cost of power that the desktop will have over my "setup".

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I'd imagine that the people spending $3k+ aren't going to stick with their systems for very long either; if they're buying that expensive of a system in the first place, they are bound to be early upgraders.
In a few rare instances, people will purchase a desktop replacement system yearly. Those are the people with money trees, and the type of people that your argument and my rational are not going to ever touch. Although some of those people are savvy enough with the market to be able to sell that desktop replacement back for a good price, making their yearly upgrade cost much much cheaper.

I, personally, couldn't stand not keeping a system for at least three years. I take care of my things, and they take care of me. I don't get how, exactly, you seem to think that a person willing to put down that large of an investment into something like this would want to upgrade so soon, but I also can't understand why you wasted your money on a MacBook Pro when there are much better solutions for a whole lot less.

To each their own?

Oh, and I'd still LOVE to see your "sub 1,000$" now-"1,000$" laptop which will provide a bearable screen size (fifteen inches), dedicated graphics chip that will get you more than three hours of battery life (or switchable graphics that'll do the same), and then your reason why you, yourself, did not go for such a setup instead of your MacBook Pro (which seems to be your only system, how strange!).

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Yea, in YOUR opinion. I don't have a problem with you thinking this laptop is useless, but to others, this is a godsend. Saying that this laptop has no place in anyone's life is truly ignorant.
The wonderful thing about the modern world is that hypocritical MacBook Pro owners can live alongside us wasteful desktop replacement owners peacefully. At least, until the Singularity. Cue the smoke machine!
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The wonderful thing about the modern world is that hypocritical MacBook Pro owners can live alongside us wasteful desktop replacement owners peacefully. At least, until the Singularity. Cue the smoke machine!

LOL! I didn't even notice that he had a Macbook. Oh god, this changes things for the worse (for him).

So e30kid, how do you justify owning a Macbook Pro over a comparable Windows laptop?
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