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I'd like to see you assemble a desktop that can be packed up in a package as small as this.
Exactly.

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*cough* Mini-ITX *cough*
Are you kidding me? lol

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They're much more convenient than having to carry a desktop if you want to play at other places. However, there IS a time when it's just as inconvenient or just ridiculous. I think laptops like these are when you get there. The chassis on this thing is WAY too big, the battery will only last around 30 minutes or an hour, and you can make a Mini-ITX desktop that is much more powerful for a lower price and still get something that's portable. I get gaming laptops as long as they try more to be laptops rather than simply gaming.
Again - a mini-itx is a DESKTOP. As others have pointed out, it's not a laptop.
The M18x might be big, but it's not impossible to carry around. I lug around a book bag on my back every day for about 8+ hours of the day that has about 4 huge textbooks and a bunch of 5 subject notebooks. And this is senior year of high school. It's hard to even describe the mass of the book bag. It's about the size of an XPS M1710 times five! An M1710 is about the size of that M18x if not bigger because the LCD screen is like 4 inches thick alone.
I have NO problem carrying around a M1710 if not an M18x. To say it's inconvenient to carry is quite an overstatement. Sure, carrying around a thin laptop or a netbook might be better but thats ONLY if you plan on doing no gaming or heavy GPU/CPU tasks. Sorry, but if you're getting a M18x or any computer like a RoG - then you have a reason and a use for it.

You mention battery, then you mention a mini-itx desktop. If you have a place to plug in a desktop, then battery is not a factor. Why do you even mention it?
Also, you say 30 minutes to an hour of battery. Incorrect. It's 1-2 hours gaming, generally Alienwares and RoGs have around 3-5 hours without gaming (aka anything other than GPU tasks where the main one can be disabled).

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For example, my Asus G60VX has a 16" screen rather than an 18.4" screen, is MUCH smaller, should weigh 3-4 pounds less, and (IMO) looks much better. Yes, it has a slower CPU and GPU, but it also works much better as a normal laptop. Also, it cost me $650.
How does it work much better as a normal laptop if it has a slower CPU and GPU? That makes no sense. If you mean for carrying around, I suppose, but again carrying is not as bad as you proposed especially if you have a use for it. Clearly, you have no reason for a good GPU if you're using it as a "normal laptop". A M18x or anything like it does not fall in your niche.

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Prove him wrong. Go design a mini-ITX system that'll have a 18.4"-19" display at 1920x1080, a keyboard (backlit and number pad), touchpad, decent sound system, power supply, webcam, and make it all fit inside the same (or smaller) profile the MX18 takes up. Then re-sell it and make millions.

I'll make sure to not hold my breathe, though.

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I don't understand how you seem to think that the games people are going to be playing nine tenths of the time are the same as what you play in as much. Besides that, some of us have more than one location we are stationed at, which means we'd either need two desktops, or a decent laptop. The desktops normally come out to costing more in parts/power/time wasted (syncing files that are required between both locations, setting up the second system after setting up the first, etc). And that's only in relation to two locations. Some people, such as myself, not only have two locations, but routinely go on site with clients and need to have access to their entire workstation.

Besides gaming, though, which is a lovely part of the system, the large screen gives you ample workspace and the speedy processor gives you a multitasking machine, for those of us that run a lot of things at once.

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How is it "way" too big? Seventeen inches is a bit too small for a screen, considering a normal sitting distance, at 1920x1200. A eighteen point four inch display should be perfect, accounting for 1920x1080. Besides that, the battery life on the MX17r3 is upwards of two hours (I've heard of people getting four) on the integrated graphics. I have no idea, personally, why you'd be expecting a desktop replacement to get good battery life, nor why you'd even be wanting to use it for anything that would REQUIRE good battery life.

A sixteen inch screen would be MUCH too small, and I use a backpack to carry my desktop replacement which means I'm no where near as limited in weight as I would be if I was, for example, carrying it on a belly button piercing as most people seem to think they will in regards to weight.

Oh, and how long will your little laptop be able to play most recent games? A year? Two at most? You'll get four to five years of usable gaming lifetime out of most desktop replacement laptops, and that's dealing with latest games at medium or above quality. Good luck with that on your laptop, mate!

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On topic, I'm going to be in the market for a new desktop replacement laptop soon, so this is good news indeed. I hope they go back to using desktop CPUs as they're much easier to upgrade and replace (part sourcing wise), and, in reality, the desktop replacement's battery is a UPS normally (although the MX17r3s are getting pretty good battery life with switchable graphics, so who knows, eh?).
All of this agreed.

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Apart from the fact that there's no point in doing what you just said. If you wanna game at a LAN party, there's probably monitors there already in place. If you wanna game at a friend's house, you connect it to the TV. There's simply no point in this laptop; I wouldn't even call it a laptop at all.
I would call it a laptop very easily. It's just heavier than most, but it's just as portable.
Also, building a desktop to go to LAN parties isn't always ideal too unless that is your primary niche. For example, if I were to go to a LAN party I would bring my laptop regardless of it's size or power. I have no intention of building a desktop specifically for LAN parties, I never go to any frequently enough to justify. I do more time on the road, on planes, and hotel rooms more than anything. You might go to LANs a ton though, so you have a purpose to build a dedicated LAN desktop but it's versatility compared to a laptop like this isn't even close.

You're arguing the same idea as a "portable" Xbox 360 for example. Ok, I can make an Xbox 360 smaller in size, lighter, and even (a one up on a desktop) have a built in screen but when it comes down to it - I NEED a power cord no matter what.

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haha really... a crossfire desktop setup is more portable than a laptop?

...

a tower, separate monitor, keyboard, mouse and whatever else you need is more portable than a single laptop?

what are you people smoking? coz i want some, those delusions are amazing.

i work away in the mines of western australia, and for accommodation they put us is "donga's", which is basically a converted shipping container. i fly in and out on a chartered plane, usually a Foccer 100 from Skywest. we have a 7kg carry on limit with a 10kg luggage limit.

so for people like me, heavy gamers, these beasty gaming laptops are not only ideal, they are usually essential to play my favourite games while im away.

i currently own the ASUS G73JH and its great, although i'd still love more power, games like GTA4 still struggle. now i probably wouldnt go and spend money on Alienware but if there was another option with similar specs i would consider it.

lol, "you can build a deskptop PC that compares to this or beats it for less and its more portable" ... funny argument. but ignorance is bliss guys, keep smoking and dreaming.
Thank you.
You might have a very rare situation indeed, but the logic of the problem can be very universally common to people.

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Yea, in YOUR opinion. I don't have a problem with you thinking this laptop is useless, but to others, this is a godsend. Saying that this laptop has no place in anyone's life is truly ignorant.
Thank you too, exactly.
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LOL! I didn't even notice that he had a Macbook. Oh god, this changes things for the worse (for him).

So e30kid, how do you justify owning a Macbook Pro over a comparable Windows laptop?
The issue wouldn't be all that much of an issue if I couldn't take the specs of his system and find a better laptop, with slightly worse battery life, for a whole lot cheaper. Maybe he takes five hour or greater bus rides?

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Are you kidding me? lol
Well now, I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that someone has been sniffing too much thermal paste! Anyways, I'd expect the majority of users of OCN to be hardcore desktop gamers, which view desktop replacement gaming as "overpriced". Hop on over to a notebook forum, and you'll find that the majority of people there think they're perfectly priced for the upgrade/ease of use they give you.
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It'll "rape" a lighter system with a built in keyboard, mouse, display, and batter all in a smaller form factor, in portability, how, exactly?

I'd love to see you take up LOL_Wut_Axel's self-imposed challenge, and come up with a cheaper/equally priced solution that is more portable. Heck, I won't even make you count the weight of the frame backpack you'd need to carry around the system, battery, and display holding structure. Good luck!

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Look into Clevos, mate. Sager is the one the serves them, mostly, up in the US. Specifically, you'll want to look at the x7200, as that'll fix all of your desires for more power.


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You're free to call it the Queen of France for all that it matters. Besides that, you said that you're better off making a mini-ITX desktop. Show us the proof that you can provide the same quality of service at the same price or less, and your point shall stand.

Also, assuming that some magical fairy will drop off a monitor for you to use when you want to go game at a LAN party is wishful thinking at best (and a great way to sit on the side lines bummed out, or with a brand new monitor from a local Best Buy or whereabouts for your assumptions). Assuming that your friend has a TV able to connect to your laptop, and that he'll let you do as much (if you're not smart enough to bring your own display....), is one heck of an assumption to make.

Oh, and what about coffee shop gaming? Gaming in the back of a car? How about editing a spreadsheet on a bus? Or what about when you're waiting at a bus stop, and want to finish your presentation? Does the magical monitor fairy, or your friend with his ever-helpful TV, show up to give you assistance in that case?

Face it, buddy: You merely have an irrational hatred for desktop replacement systems. Accept that it is irrational, or prove that it is rational by providing evident reasons for as much. Thanks, and good luck with that.

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To clarify, you, specifically, stated as follows: I fully agree that you can build a better preforming desktop for two-thirds to, at your very best, half of the price as a similarly spec'd desktop replacement. In regards to the "setup", that is considered to be everything needed to game. You're free to include a USB mouse for the desktop replacement, as trackpad gaming is tricky stuff. Besides that, though, your statement is entirely incorrect in that regard. Heck, a loaded desktop tower by itself would easily out weight all but the heaviest of desktop replacements (Dell M2010 would tip the scale on some of the lighter "setups").

Besides that, there are people besides gtarmanrob and myself that, while they do not NEED this type of setup, they WANT it. They want the ease of portability and setup given by a laptop, whilst still being able to game well enough. Some people understand that it is as much of an investment as anything with a high price tag, and aren't so shortsighted as to see things with the day-by-day lense a lot of people wear nowadays. Anyways, I'd still love to see a "setup" that was lighter than a desktop replacement.
The battery life on this thing is so low that you won't be able to be productive with it anyway. And no, 10 pounds is not light. Do you actually think someone is gonna be carrying this around to wherever they go? Whatever, you just won't see the fact that this makes no sense for the compromises and price tag it carries.
    
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LOL! I didn't even notice that he had a Macbook. Oh god, this changes things for the worse (for him). ninja.gif

So e30kid, how do you justify owning a Macbook Pro over a comparable Windows laptop?

Okay so this is a very convenient topic for me because I, just today, purchased a MacBook Pro for college. Before I get flamed, let me say the following:

My main rig is my sig rig. Powerful, overclocked gaming desktop.

I also own an Alienware M15x that I used either for gaming not at home (I rarely lug the desktop to others' houses) or I let friends use it when we want to game at my house and they don't have their own computer. It's convenient on many counts. I have been bringing this to school with me for over a year or so and its portability factor is limiting. the computer is two inches in height and weights 9 pounds without the power brick (which I have to bring because the battery last 1.5-2 hours tops). The machine has amazing power but it weighs as much as my books do.

It seems logical, for me, to purchase the newly refreshed 15in Macbook Pro. I was mad at myself for knowingly purchasing an overpriced machine until I looked a little deeper. The computer, with student discount, starts at $1700. Yes, that is a lot of money. But when compared to similarly spec'd and sized laptops from major OEMs (Dell, HP, Lenovo) I noticed that the mac had equal, or in some cases, a lower price. I was dumbfounded.

So with the SandyBridge CPUs (i7 Quad faster than my Alienware's i7 quad), a weight of 5.5 pounds, and a height of less than an inch, there wasn't a lot to lose. I don't have much experience with OSX but if I need to I can uninstall it. Use Windows or Linux. The computers are beautifully built (opinion) and are highly mobile (size, weight, 7-hour battery). I am looking forward to going to classes and not needing to carry a power brick.

I know that 90% of people here are Apple haters. I still hate a lot of things about them to. (Example: the cost of upgrading from 4 to 8 gigs of ram: $200. A new kit of 8GB DDR3 laptop RAM from Newegg? $80. Yea, I stuck with 4). I decided that I was going stop blindly hating a company and their machines without giving proper analysis. I am pleased with the purchase and won't feel guilty because my main rig is still a home-build desktop PC.

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How does it work much better as a normal laptop if it has a slower CPU and GPU? That makes no sense. If you mean for carrying around, I suppose, but again carrying is not as bad as you proposed especially if you have a use for it. Clearly, you have no reason for a good GPU if you're using it as a "normal laptop". A M18x or anything like it does not fall in your niche.
Because for using it for normal tasks you don't need a CPU or GPU that fast. And, since I do have slower components there, it means they need less cooling, which in turn means I have a smaller chassis, which in turn means it weighs less which in turn means it's more portable, which in turn means it works better for carrying around and is more convenient. For gaming, I can still do it at the native res. for most in very high and if not I can lower them to high/medium settings combo. It does my daily tasks just as good and I can still game. I didn't go for a lower-end GPU because I still wanted to game at good settings/image quality. If you want the best gaming experience you still need a desktop and a bigger monitor than what this "laptop" provides, so it's nonsensical. It won't replace a desktop for gaming at the best settings.

ALSO:

There's the big issue of price. I wouldn't be surprised if the base model started at the very low price of $1999. I paid $650 for my laptop.
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This looks interesting. A bit big / (most likely) expensive for my tastes, but the M14x is looking good. I will reserve final judgement till I see prices. I hope that I am not the only one on here who likes Alienware laptops? (Have never owned one . . . yet)
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The battery life on this thing is so low that you won't be able to be productive with it anyway. And no, 10 pounds is not light. Do you actually think someone is gonna be carrying this around to wherever they go? Whatever, you just won't see the fact that this makes no sense for the compromises and price tag it carries.
I carry around a Dell XPS M710 (I'd say around seven pounds, at most), power adapter (a pound at most), external mouse (when I get waylaid and cannot stand the touchpad any longer), as well as my standard carry of basic network troubleshooting devices, a small external USB hard disk, extra cat5e cord, headset, CD case with important CDs (boot tools, etc), a bottle of my favorite hot sauce (Tapatio for the WIN!) in the 300ml version as the 150ml is barely a week's worth.

Heck, that's just the computer related things, too (yes, hot sauce IS computer related). It doesn't even cover my first aid kit (I use this at least four times a year, and have only had to use it once for myself), swimming trunks (you have NO idea how useful it is to carry a full change of clothing that is appropriate for being seen in public [if not a bit strange, and perhaps a bit chilly] in such a small article of clothing), whatever book I am reading (which will be replaced by an ereader as soon as I decide that they're ripe for the picking), and a bunch of miscellaneous other things like a lighter, USB stick, flashlight, plastic bags, etc.

I can go weight my backpack right now, if you'd like. I can assure you that it tops well over ten pounds. And I carry this all day, every day of the week that I work, and most often on the weekends when I'm out doing archery, hiking (minus the desktop replacement laptop [I keep the desktop replacement's power supply in, though, as it is a backup or in case I'm not at home or the office, as I have one at each location already set up] though), or even when I'm just driving somewhere to visit a friend.

But then, I'm of the mindset that it's better to be overly prepared and not have anything happen than be under prepared and have a situation to deal with. That, and I can carry more than ten pounds at a time without dying must help. Perhaps you should look into one of those nifty wheel backpacks, eh? They'd augment your ability to carry around things whilst taking into account you evident ten pound weight limit.

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Okay so this is a very convenient topic for me because I, just today, purchased a MacBook Pro for college. Before I get flamed, let me say the following:

My main rig is my sig rig. Powerful, overclocked gaming desktop.

I also own an Alienware M15x[...]
Good sir, do you own of those money trees? Heh, I kid, I kid. There is NOTHING wrong with owning a MacBook Pro if that is WHAT YOU WANT. They're good systems if you are willing to pay extra for them. They just aren't as economically logical as a desktop replacement single-system solution.

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[...]that I used either for gaming not at home (I rarely lug the desktop to others' houses) or I let friends use it when we want to game at my house and they don't have their own computer. It's convenient on many counts. I have been bringing this to school with me for over a year or so and its portability factor is limiting. the computer is two inches in height and weights 9 pounds without the power brick (which I have to bring because the battery last 1.5-2 hours tops). The machine has amazing power but it weighs as much as my books do.
How do you carry your load? A backpack with a decent lumbar support strap should allow you to easily carry three M15xs with power supplies, your books, and a bottle of your favorite drink.

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It seems logical, for me, to purchase the newly refreshed 15in Macbook Pro. I was mad at myself for knowingly purchasing an overpriced machine until I looked a little deeper. The computer, with student discount, starts at $1700. Yes, that is a lot of money. But when compared to similarly spec'd and sized laptops from major OEMs (Dell, HP, Lenovo) I noticed that the mac had equal, or in some cases, a lower price. I was dumbfounded.
The major OEMs are a joke in most cases. You should have looked into Clevo-based systems. Want me to see if I can spec out a fifteen inch system for you at 1,700$ with a better set of hardware?

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So with the SandyBridge CPUs (i7 Quad faster than my Alienware's i7 quad), a weight of 5.5 pounds, and a height of less than an inch, there wasn't a lot to lose. I don't have much experience with OSX but if I need to I can uninstall it. Use Windows or Linux. The computers are beautifully built (opinion) and are highly mobile (size, weight, 7-hour battery). I am looking forward to going to classes and not needing to carry a power brick.
So, in your case, you value an extremely low carry load (I consider anything under ten pounds to be extremely low), and are willing to pay a premium for it, correct? Well, that's fine, and entirely rational.

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I know that 90% of people here are Apple haters. I still hate a lot of things about them to. (Example: the cost of upgrading from 4 to 8 gigs of ram: $200. A new kit of 8GB DDR3 laptop RAM from Newegg? $80. Yea, I stuck with 4). I decided that I was going stop blindly hating a company and their machines without giving proper analysis. I am pleased with the purchase and won't feel guilty because my main rig is [I]still[I] a home-build desktop PC.
Most people that "hate" Apple actually merely dislike them for their snobbish attitudes, overpriced hardware, disgustingly buggy software, irrational mentality when it comes to the user experience (here's a hint: It doesn't "just work". Go with a copy of Windows, and save yourself the trouble.), and worst of all, insane fan base that will BLINDLY spend the 200$ on a RAM upgrade, then flaunt such things over others without ever even running anything more complicated than iTunes.

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Reasons are a good thing
I entirely agree! You, good sir, have rationally proven that your choice, while not the most logical in my opinion, WAS a rational thought-out choice.

Still, I'd have suggested going with something with less battery life but far better gaming ability. But to each their own!



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Because for using it for normal tasks you don't need a CPU or GPU that fast.
Define "normal tasks", mate. Further, define why, exactly, anyone would get a desktop CPU above what you consider the requirement for said "normal tasks".

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And, since I do have slower components there, it means they need less cooling, which in turn means I have a smaller chassis, which in turn means it weighs less which in turn means it's more portable, which in turn means it works better for carrying around and is more convenient.
"Better" in your opinion, as well as "more convenient" in as much, too. Again: Not all of us are limited to ten pounds or bust.

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For gaming, I can still do it at the native res. for most in very high and if not I can lower them to high/medium settings combo.
So you're running, what, 1280 x 800? Yeah, I can't believe anyone still has a resolution that low. I'll never go back to a sub-seventeen inch (main display. I wouldn't mind an additional touch screen display instead of my touchpad in the range of seven inches or so), sub-1920x1080 (I've come to accept that 1920x1200 is dying) setup.

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It does my daily tasks just as good and I can still game.
I'm sure it is within par of acceptable during your daily grind. And I'm sure you can game, for a few more months, before it becomes a bit too underpowered.

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I didn't go for a lower-end GPU because I still wanted to game at good settings/image quality.
Well that was a good idea, although what GPU are you running? How long are you expecting it to be able to give you decent graphics in modern games?

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If you want the best gaming experience you still need a desktop and a bigger monitor than what this "laptop" provides, so it's nonsensical.
I've used a 15", 17", 22", 24" and 30" display for gaming, with the 24" being used for well over one hundred hours of gaming of the "larger" displays. I liked the 30" the most as the resolution was great, although it was far too large in my opinion. I'd love a nice 19" running 2560x1600. Besides that, though, even the 24" display was too large for gaming. It was better for working, but I sit too close to my system (three feet) so it was still too large (considering my external display as well).

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It won't replace a desktop for gaming at the best settings.
Nope, and it won't for a few more years. As the desktop continues to fall from grace, and desktop replacements continue up the stairway to heaven, that will surely change. I can't wait!
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I carry around a Dell XPS M710 (I'd say around seven pounds, at most), power adapter (a pound at most), external mouse (when I get waylaid and cannot stand the touchpad any longer), as well as my standard carry of basic network troubleshooting devices, a small external USB hard disk, extra cat5e cord, headset, CD case with important CDs (boot tools, etc), a bottle of my favorite hot sauce (Tapatio for the WIN!) in the 300ml version as the 150ml is barely a week's worth.

Heck, that's just the computer related things, too (yes, hot sauce IS computer related). It doesn't even cover my first aid kit (I use this at least four times a year, and have only had to use it once for myself), swimming trunks (you have NO idea how useful it is to carry a full change of clothing that is appropriate for being seen in public [if not a bit strange, and perhaps a bit chilly] in such a small article of clothing), whatever book I am reading (which will be replaced by an ereader as soon as I decide that they're ripe for the picking), and a bunch of miscellaneous other things like a lighter, USB stick, flashlight, plastic bags, etc.

I can go weight my backpack right now, if you'd like. I can assure you that it tops well over ten pounds. And I carry this all day, every day of the week that I work, and most often on the weekends when I'm out doing archery, hiking (minus the desktop replacement laptop [I keep the desktop replacement's power supply in, though, as it is a backup or in case I'm not at home or the office, as I have one at each location already set up] though), or even when I'm just driving somewhere to visit a friend.

But then, I'm of the mindset that it's better to be overly prepared and not have anything happen than be under prepared and have a situation to deal with. That, and I can carry more than ten pounds at a time without dying must help. Perhaps you should look into one of those nifty wheel backpacks, eh? They'd augment your ability to carry around things whilst taking into account you evident ten pound weight limit.
But that's just you. I'm sure most of us don't want our backs broken or hurting from having to carry something 10+ pounds all day long. If you can carry around 20 pounds all day long, fine. Just don't expect the majority of people to do so.

Some people even find the 8 pounds I have to carry around daily because of laptop + charger + some other things to be too much, and I don't blame them either. It can be too heavy for some people.
    
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But that's just you. I'm sure most of us don't want our backs broken or hurting from having to carry something 10+ pounds all day long. If you can carry around 20 pounds all day long, fine. Just don't expect the majority of people to do so.

Some people even find the 8 pounds I have to carry around daily because of laptop + charger + some other things to be too much, and I don't blame them either. It can be too heavy for some people.
Which is why this laptop is not for them. However, for people who don't mind the extra weight then it's not an issue. High performance doesn't come without weight.
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In all honesty, I wouldn't call the M18x a computer for the "Gamer on the go." but instead for those who want "The ultimate DTR solution!"

The M11x R3 or the M14x would be the ones for the "Gamer on the go".


I own a laptop of this class. It's the lightest on the list of DTR machines but the Toshiba Qosmio is one of them. I love it. It's fun to show off and the screen is just beautiful. Great clarity, good contrast ratio, and the brightness control is perfect. Heck I modeled my gaming/performance mode to save power without the battery charger and it lasts longer than the power saver feature.

If someone wants a DTR laptop, you can't go lower. The portability suffers but that's why they call it a, in case you don't know what that means, DESKTOP REPLACEMENT LAPTOP. You buy it for the reason that you don't want this box filled with a mess of cables and wires and it's always pulling something like 800w and driving up your power bills, etc, etc...

If you don't like it, get the 15.6" machines and call it good. But don't complain about how "this thing is too big". I could say the same about most tower computers. What's your point?
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