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But that's just you. I'm sure most of us don't want our backs broken or hurting from having to carry something 10+ pounds all day long. If you can carry around 20 pounds all day long, fine. Just don't expect the majority of people to do so.
Now SEE, we get to the crux of the issue! I am not suggesting EVERYONE is a superman, like myself (*poses*), and is able to carry twenty pounds all day long (not counting the items I keep on my person, my boots, etc).

What I AM saying, though, is that you're being highly irrational for your extreme hatred for desktop replacement systems. Your entire argument centers around the idea that they're worthless. You've just proven yourself wrong by saying otherwise in my situation. I'm glad we're starting to be rational!

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Some people even find the 8 pounds I have to carry around daily because of laptop + charger + some other things to be too much, and I don't blame them either. It can be too heavy for some people.
Indeed. Heck, I know people that whin--- have issues carrying more than a few pounds. They're usually sub-100lbs girls, though, with almost no muscle mass. I don't think I know any guy that cannot carry at least ten pounds daily (then again, the guys I know are the ones I go hiking with. Perhaps I need to go down to a local Apple store and ask the guys there? Well, they'll likely all be sub-100lbs, too, eh?).

In reality, the VAST majority of people can easily carry around twenty pounds with a proper backpack (the key is load distribution as well as a lumbar/waist strap) if required. Most people won't, though, as until you build up the muscles, it's too heavy, and you'll hurt your back a good deal if you try and do it without the muscles to be able to support it properly.

But hey, that's why we have netbooks, right?

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Which is why this laptop is not for them. However, for people who don't mind the extra weight then it's not an issue. High performance doesn't come without weight.
Or at least, not without paying a bucket load for an awesome home setup, an always-active cell-network connection with a large bandwidth dedication, and a really good streaming solution. But heck, if you have THAT much money, just hire someone to carry your desktop around, or have them game for you and tell you how much fun it is, or whatnot, eh?

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In all honesty, I wouldn't call the M18x a computer for the "Gamer on the go." but instead for those who want "The ultimate DTR solution!"

The M11x R3 or the M14x would be the ones for the "Gamer on the go".
I agree, in the sense that the M18x is NOT the solution for everyone. That's why Alienware has the M11x, and M14x. But as the cookies land and the turtles fly, the M18x will be the most powerful solution with the longest lifetime before needing upgrades. And that's just dealing with Alienware. There are far better high performance desktop replacement systems that easily destroy the Alienware setup on price and performance.
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Which is why this laptop is not for them. However, for people who don't mind the extra weight then it's not an issue. High performance doesn't come without weight.
That's not the only problem. After you go higher than $1000, you typically get diminishing returns when it comes to performance. You're paying $3000 for a laptop that is slower than a $1000 desktop. Sure, it's more convenient, but we're talking $2000 dollars difference.

That convenience is limited, too. This thing will only get an hour or less of battery life.
    
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That's not the only problem. After you go higher than $1000, you typically get diminishing returns when it comes to performance. You're paying $3000 for a laptop that is slower than a $1000 desktop. Sure, it's more convenient, but we're talking $2000 dollars difference.

That convenience is limited, too. This thing will only get an hour or less of battery life.
You're paying 3,000$ for a laptop that will last four years, versus a desktop that will last four years, at around 1,500$. Then, factor in a second device for a second location, and even a third device to deal with mobile usage. You'll easily start paying a whole lot more for a multi-system setup over a single device setup. And we aren't even talking about dealing with the cost of your time in setting up new systems, syncing of data, buying licenses for software on each system that requires it, etc.

The convenience extends WELL beyond the savings in mobile, as I have eagerly demonstrated for you.
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Now SEE, we get to the crux of the issue! I am not suggesting EVERYONE is a superman, like myself (*poses*), and is able to carry twenty pounds all day long (not counting the items I keep on my person, my boots, etc).

What I AM saying, though, is that you're being highly irrational for your extreme hatred for desktop replacement systems. Your entire argument centers around the idea that they're worthless. You've just proven yourself wrong by saying otherwise in my situation. I'm glad we're starting to be rational!



Indeed. Heck, I know people that whin--- have issues carrying more than a few pounds. They're usually sub-100lbs girls, though, with almost no muscle mass. I don't think I know any guy that cannot carry at least ten pounds daily (then again, the guys I know are the ones I go hiking with. Perhaps I need to go down to a local Apple store and ask the guys there? Well, they'll likely all be sub-100lbs, too, eh?).

In reality, the VAST majority of people can easily carry around twenty pounds with a proper backpack (the key is load distribution as well as a lumbar/waist strap) if required. Most people won't, though, as until you build up the muscles, it's too heavy, and you'll hurt your back a good deal if you try and do it without the muscles to be able to support it properly.

But hey, that's why we have netbooks, right?

~~~



Or at least, not without paying a bucket load for an awesome home setup, an always-active cell-network connection with a large bandwidth dedication, and a really good streaming solution. But heck, if you have THAT much money, just hire someone to carry your desktop around, or have them game for you and tell you how much fun it is, or whatnot, eh?

~~~



I agree, in the sense that the M18x is NOT the solution for everyone. That's why Alienware has the M11x, and M14x. But as the cookies land and the turtles fly, the M18x will be the most powerful solution with the longest lifetime before needing upgrades. And that's just dealing with Alienware. There are far better high performance desktop replacement systems that easily destroy the Alienware setup on price and performance.
No. Most people will refuse to carry around 10 pounds all day. Don't try to make it seem as if people don't want to carry it around because they're weaklings. I weigh 145 pounds, which is normal for my height, and I wouldn't want to carry 10 pounds or more all day long. Same thing goes for most people with a normal weight.
    
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I'm sure most of us don't want our backs broken or hurting from having to carry something 10+ pounds all day long.
So you're just weak then? I carry around a hefty laptop and power brick in my backpack and don't even notice it. This is along with my college books, iPod, drinks, and whatever else I'm bringing along.
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No. Most people will refuse to carry around 10 pounds all day. Don't try to make it seem as if people don't want to carry it around because they're weaklings. I weigh 145 pounds, which is normal for my height, and I wouldn't want to carry 10 pounds or more all day long. Same thing goes for most people with a normal weight.
I lol'd. You're sad. I could see if you had to carry 10 pounds in one hand grasping the laptop with your fingers all day long or something, but carrying 10 pounds in your backpack is too much? Seriously? Just stop talking.
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You're paying 3,000$ for a laptop that will last four years, versus a desktop that will last four years, at around 1,500$. Then, factor in a second device for a second location, and even a third device to deal with mobile usage. You'll easily start paying a whole lot more for a multi-system setup over a single device setup. And we aren't even talking about dealing with the cost of your time in setting up new systems, syncing of data, buying licenses for software on each system that requires it, etc.

The convenience extends WELL beyond the savings in mobile, as I have eagerly demonstrated for you.
No, sorry. You've yet to demonstrate how this is useful for anyone that can't carry around a lot of weight. For the overwhelming majority of people, including me, this is useless. My argument stands. The market for this is WAY too limited.
    
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So you're just weak then? I carry around a hefty laptop and power brick in my backpack and don't even notice it. This is along with my college books, iPod, drinks, and whatever else I'm bringing along.


I lol'd. You're sad. I could see if you had to carry 10 pounds in one hand grasping the laptop with your fingers all day long or something, but carrying 10 pounds in your backpack is too much? Seriously? Just stop talking.
Again, that's JUST YOU. The fact that you think that the fact most people don't want to carry around more than 10 pounds are weak makes you an ass. I have to carry around almost that much daily, and that doesn't change the fact that its a pain in the ass and I'd rather carry less. I don't care if you can or are willing to carry around 20 pounds daily. It's too much for almost everyone.
    
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Again, that's JUST YOU. The fact that you think that the fact most people don't want to carry around more than 10 pounds are weak makes you an ass. I have to carry around almost that much daily, and that doesn't change the fact that its a pain in the ass and I'd rather carry less. I don't care if you can or are willing to carry around 20 pounds daily. It's too much for almost everyone.
I highly doubt it. Once again, in a backpack your whole body is carrying the extra weight. 10+ pounds is nothing. If people gain 10 pounds of fat they can walk around just fine can they not?
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wait what? what kind of a chip is this? I have not heard about any mobile extreme chips and I find it hard to believe that it's the full fledged desktop variant. I've seen one laptop that had a normal i7 980X and it was like 7-10cm thick...
This is the chip in a Dell Precision Workstation m6500 - i7-920XM, 2.0 GHz, Quad Core Extreme
     
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I highly doubt it. Once again, in a backpack your whole body is carrying the extra weight. 10+ pounds is nothing. If people gain 10 pounds of fat they can walk around just fine can they not?
LOL. Just LOL. That's not even remotely the same thing. Go back to school.
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