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So after gaming for several hours on the 470s I'm starting to grow a large distaste to not watercooling them

These things run hot as hell, with fan speed auto set at ~65% the GPUs were hitting 90C

I maxed the fan to 100% (5500RPM) and the GPUs sat around 65-71C.... but it sounds aweful... its like I got an Allison prop motor going in my room... so much noise!!!!
Man mine MAXED after folding for 24 hours non stop NEVER hit about 80c. Neither did my 8800Ultra - and that was a HOT card.
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I don't understand why everyone QQ's the Fermi's especially the 470 and 480 for fan noise

simple, just change to waterblocks or aftermarket air coolers

as stated before, they're massively underclocked
the best deal right now for max performance is not SLI 580's
its SLI 480's +WB's without the blowing VRM's like the 570's
and you can find 480's and WB's cheaply if you wait and find the right deal

but up to you OP, SLI 470's really fly

Edit: the 4890 was a hot running cookie....and so where some previous cards IIRC, why the QQ now about Fermi?
post #53 of 68
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I don't understand why everyone QQ's the Fermi's especially the 470 and 480 for fan noise

simple, just change to waterblocks or aftermarket air coolers

as stated before, they're massively underclocked
the best deal right now for max performance is not SLI 580's
its SLI 480's +WB's without the blowing VRM's like the 570's
and you can find 480's and WB's cheaply if you wait and find the right deal

but up to you OP, SLI 470's really fly

Edit: the 4890 was a hot running cookie....and so where some previous cards IIRC, why the QQ now about Fermi?
My old 4870x2 was an inferno. would easily hit +80c and that horrible noise from the stock cooler. Tg I went w/ a water block, though temps did occasionally hit 60-70c when running furmark.
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I would be glad to trade you my 285 I have lieing around + $, but I only have 1 285.
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A simple solution would be to replace the tim, my air cooled 470 runs at around 73C with 80% fan speed at 850 core.

Since you now have way more power and DX11 after replacing your TIM a general "smart" thought would be to downclock and undervolt your cards and set a custom fan profile.

But you could always sell them, I guess, and downgrade back to the 285, there is no high end card this gen that will give you much different results with reference cooling.
    
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400 series isn't last gen, no matter what anyone tells you.
    
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400 series isn't last gen, no matter what anyone tells you.
Well all right then, that makes me happy considering how well they perform!
 
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500 series has some slight improvements over 400 series on the core level, but nothing big. The big difference between 400 series and 500 series is the reference cooling is drastically improved and the cards come with overvolt protection built in.

A 480 is pretty much exactly the same as a 570, except the stock cooling of the 480 isn't nearly as good and the 480 has more ram. They both have same core count. The 580 is a step above the 480 in core count, but the same vram.

The 500 series did make one noticeable improvement on the core level which was slightly better power usage and this allows for typically better overclocking (combined with better referenced cooling). However the reference 570 design has a major flaw in its mosfet design and only non reference 570s really excel over 470 cards. They are faster, however a good 470 can come pretty close to a average 570, the difference will only be a few % between the two. Clock for clock the 570 is about 4% faster than the 470, but the 570 can clock higher (just so I don't get flamed too hard).

Buy some quality TIM like Shin Etsu and put it on the vrms, ram, and core, then place the stock heatsink back on it and you should see a nice improvement in temps. Make sure your case has proper air flow as well (going from water cooled gpus to air cooled will make a big difference since the air cards are heating up the inside of the case while using that same air to cool themselves).

You should be able to downclock and undervolt if you want to, also don't worry about how hot the core is up to about 90C its not a problem, don't turn up the fan just to lower its temps as that just removes the same amount of heat only faster it doesn't change how much heat is being put out.
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Yeah I understand the whole bit about turning up fans only removes heat faster, I only turn em up higher for bench runs

Also, ROFL LMFBO @ how much hot air these cards make!!!!!! I clocked them up to ~800core/1700mem and the whole side wall of my case got hot... and my case is 12 inches wide.... I have 4x140mm fans at the front inducting 130CFM each, plenty of airflow, I've never had heat issues due to all of the heat being carried out by water though

This is quite hysterical that my case got that warm.. but oh well... I'm re-installing my GTX 460 backup card and pulling the 470s, as I think I've found them a new home.
 
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post #60 of 68
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Or sell the 470's, buy used 285's and pocket the extra $


But I would sell the blocks and not look back, 1 470 is on par with 2 285's.....
I know you posted this six days ago but have you been on ebay and seen the 285's prices? he should of sold them 285's are going used for more than 470 new I don't understand why (and not the mac version the pc one) they are expensive as hell the 260's are cheap but still more than I thought they would be, I just bought 3 260's for a lan rig and got them pretty cheap but two 460's would of been cheaper looking back
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