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The two mice I'm considering getting more than others right now are the deathadder and xai. I hear a lot about acceleration/prediction. When I got the mouse I'm using now, I could barely control it before I realized acceleration was turned on in the driver settings, so it seems like a big deal. It seems to be an issue in many mice. From what I hear, even if you turn off acceleration in some mice, there is still a small amount. Is there acceleration in cheap mice? The Xai looks really nice but I've read a lot about it having acceleration even when you turn it off, is that true? With the deathadder, many say the sensor is very good, but I've also heard that an infrared is similar to an optical and isnt as accurate as a laser, plus I'm not a big fan of the shape.

edit: Also, people say the original deathadder is better than the newer one, can someone tell me exactly what the differences are? If I can't find the old one, is the new one still worth getting? In the sticky about the sensors, the deathadder 3.5g says "old firmware: jitter on cloth", does that mean if I want to use it on cloth I'll need to upgrade the firmware first? Not sure if it makes a difference, but I play league of legends, so would there be a mouse that would be suited for that game?
Edited by nachoz - 4/12/11 at 4:33pm
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Xai does have 10% positive acceleration which is noticeable, other than that it's great.

There's nothing wrong with the Deathadder sensor, the people telling you otherwise are just spouting bull****. It's the best sensor on the market at the moment.

Since you don't like the shape you should look into the Abyssus. Same sensor as the Deathadder in a superior shape.

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WMO, what is the matter with you this week? Why are you recommending the Abyssus over the WMO? It weighs just a bit less, yes, but it costs three times as much and is infinitely uglier!
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WMO, what is the matter with you this week? Why are you recommending the Abyssus over the WMO? It weighs just a bit less, yes, but it costs three times as much and is infinitely uglier!
Not everyone can be apart of the WMO master race my friend. For those that want to get close though the Abyssus is the next best choice.
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Is there acceleration in cheap mice?
Acceleration isn't really a property of the mouse. It is a property of the sensor which the mouse uses. Most of us get lazy with our terms so we don't sound so posh, but since your a nub, I ought to make the distinction.

That said, price and acceleration are unrelated. There are sensors in $15 mice, such as the MLT04 in the WMO, with no acceleration, and there are sensors in $80+ mice, such as the AVAGO ADNS-9500 in the Roccat Kone+ that are full of it.


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The Xai looks really nice but I've read a lot about it having acceleration even when you turn it off, is that true?
The Xai's sensor is the Avago ADNS-9500. Unfortunately, acceleration is a "feature" of this sensor. So even if you turn off acceleration in Windows and in the driver software, you will still have to deal with the acceleration that comes from the hardware.

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optical isnt as accurate as a laser
This is not true in any way, shape, or form.



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edit: Also, people say the original deathadder is better than the newer one, can someone tell me exactly what the differences are? If I can't find the old one, is the new one still worth getting?
This used to be true, but it isn't anymore because of new firmware for the 3.5G. There is no reason to get the 3G version over the 3.5G version.

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In the sticky about the sensors, the deathadder 3.5g says "old firmware: jitter on cloth", does that mean if I want to use it on cloth I'll need to upgrade the firmware first?
First, reading the sticky is good. Everything I say, I plagiarize from the sticky.

You will need to upgrade the firmware if it is not at least version 2.41. HOWEVER, the Deathadder 3.5Gs on store shelves today come with firmware version 2.44 installed. The firmware version of your mouse will be clearly displayed in the Razer driver software. If you do need to update it, it's easy. You just double click the .exe and hit next, next, next like a regular install.

Also, after fiddling around with an IME 3.0, I do find the Deathadders design to be lacking...

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Not everyone can be apart of the WMO master race my friend. For those that want to get close though the Abyssus is the next best choice.
I think more people can be a part of the WMO master race than the Abyssus race, because, like, it costs only $15 after taxes to join--three times less than the $45 before taxes to join the Abyssus.
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Thanks. Are there any known acceleration issues in the deathadder?
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I have to say the Abyssus is a really nice mouse. Got one a few months ago, a definite improvement over the Logitech mouse bundled with my keyboard. Love the feel and the responsiveness. The click is also really nice, not mushy or anything, if you guys get what im saying.
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Thanks. Are there any known acceleration issues in the deathadder?
None.
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I know the sticky says the deathadder is palm/fingertip, but does anyone know through experience if it would work with claw? The abyssus is much more suited to my hand I think, I have a sidwinder x8 right now which feels perfect if that gives you an idea of what I like. The abyssus and deathadder have the same sensor right, so would the abyssus also have the firmware that gets rid of the cloth jitter issue?
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I think more people can be a part of the WMO master race than the Abyssus race, because, like, it costs only $15 after taxes to join--three times less than the $45 before taxes to join the Abyssus.
Abyssus has been $30 for a while now, but yes it would make more sense if more people bought the WMO. However, high DPI and shiny finishes are more enticing to people looking for new mice.

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I know the sticky says the deathadder is palm/fingertip, but does anyone know through experience if it would work with claw? The abyssus is much more suited to my hand I think, I have a sidwinder x8 right now which feels perfect if that gives you an idea of what I like. The abyssus and deathadder have the same sensor right, so would the abyssus also have the firmware that gets rid of the cloth jitter issue?
The Deathadder is definitely not a claw/fingertip mouse at all. It's blatantly ergonomic and for palm gripping cavemen only.

The newer Abyssus' have the jitter-free firmware. If you want to guarantee without a doubt that you'll get one with the proper firmware get the League of Legends edition which has been confirmed by Razer to have the new firmware.
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