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Apparently, your inability is just is worse then mine for I never said that there are no CRT's better then my current monitor. I said MY old CRT monitor was not as sharp as MY current monitor. Even though it also ran at 120hz at an even higher resolution then the monitor I have.

So calm down.
I'm always calm although I don't seem like it online

I was doing something called reading between the lines. By giving an example of a CRT that you preferred your LCD over which, you very strongly implied that you would consider LCDs in general a better choice.

Aaaand I'm out
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Thanks for all the great suggestions guys!

For those who are suggesting CRT's as an alternative I have these concerns:

1. I have none for sale in my area on craigslist
2. The "holy grail" of CRT's, the 24 inch Sony, is $900 used on Amazon
3. I'm assuming a used CRT is going to be 8 years old
4. It is 100x easier to research a particular model of LCD than a used CRT (for me)
5. Is the statement "text looks better on a LCD" not accurate? I web browse alot
6. Color reproduction really isn't important to me. I game and web browse and that's about it.

Do the CRT guys have any tips for how to find a good one at reasonable price? I tried local (Chesterfield/Richmond area) to compare but haven't had much luck.
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Get one now!

As a "Hardcore" css, I really do notice a HUGE difference going from a slightly smaller screen to the 120HZ. It makes a noticeable difference in regular desktop use as well as any game you achieve high FPS in.

Make sure you enable 120hz, I wasn't impressed when I thought I changed mine (didn't work) and it was still same looking! After changing my jaw almost dropped.

I would also recommend the Benq XL2410t 120hz that Im using! Its bright, smooth and crisp. Only negative is colour reproduction but that hardly matters in games compared to smoothness/Fast Reaction.

EDIT: Adding my New Monitor to my sig! 120HZ lover
Edited by hardcore19 - 4/13/11 at 12:14pm
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Re: input latency: there's an interesting read at anand on the topic.
    
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Yeah, because dropping big bucks on an LCD with worse colour accuracy and a lower refresh rate than a CRT that cost half if not less the price of it makes a lot of sense.
Where are you finding new CRTs that cheap?
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Thanks for all the great suggestions guys!

For those who are suggesting CRT's as an alternative I have these concerns:

1. I have none for sale in my area on craigslist
2. The "holy grail" of CRT's, the 24 inch Sony, is $900 used on Amazon
3. I'm assuming a used CRT is going to be 8 years old
4. It is 100x easier to research a particular model of LCD than a used CRT (for me)
5. Is the statement "text looks better on a LCD" not accurate? I web browse alot
6. Color reproduction really isn't important to me. I game and web browse and that's about it.

Do the CRT guys have any tips for how to find a good one at reasonable price? I tried local (Chesterfield/Richmond area) to compare but haven't had much luck.
If you can't find any CRTs in your price range than just go with the best 120Hz LCD you can buy. It will still be better than what you have. Don't worry too much about getting a CRT, if you aren't a professional/obsessive gamer than the benefits could go unnoticed.
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I think 120Hz CRT may be better as far as response rate is concerned, but it's so huge it will split your desk in half and spew harmful radioactive rays all over your face and strain your eyesight.
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post #38 of 48
my viewsonic, shows out 120hz vertical refresh rate under a few programs including ntune, display tweaker, and a few other programs,

so i beg to differ about 120hz lcd monitors being only 75hz refresh vertical in the earlier comments,

i'll get screen shots when i get home,

and i do agree that crt's are nice, but they're expensive dinosaurs that i'd rather avoid having the trouble of digging up,

especially with the fact that my ikea was never built for crt's since the trend in 2004 was solely headed towards lcd's as crt's are so "80's"
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I work part time at Best Buy and for clarification, NO monitor or LCD/LED can accept true 120HZ and therefore the images are optimized by a 'frame doubling interpolation' where artificial images are put inbetween frames. The TV's can do a good job at this because they are all taken from 24FPS movies and easily be divided that of 120 or 240(making interpolation easier)... I've been dealing with topic for a while and first off, an HDMI 1.0 to 1.3 cable cannot provide enough 'bandwith' to produce 120 frames a second at 1080p... HDMI 1.4a might be where it is at...

The first 27 inch 1080p 120hz monitor was just introduced by Acer which inputs HDMI 1.4a and a Dual Link DVI connector for such bandwith... Asus hopefully will release theirs uncluding Samsung...

Media enthusiasts with quad core HTPC's should google 'frame doubling interpolation' and the first link shows a good guide to make MKV's look pretty good on standard 60 HZ LCDS...
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I work part time at Best Buy and for clarification, NO monitor or LCD/LED can accept true 120HZ and therefore the images are optimized by a 'frame doubling interpolation' where artificial images are put inbetween frames. The TV's can do a good job at this because they are all taken from 24FPS movies and easily be divided that of 120 or 240(making interpolation easier)... I've been dealing with topic for a while and first off, an HDMI 1.0 to 1.3 cable cannot provide enough 'bandwith' to produce 120 frames a second at 1080p... HDMI 1.4a might be where it is at...

The first 27 inch 1080p 120hz monitor was just introduced by Acer which inputs HDMI 1.4a and a Dual Link DVI connector for such bandwith... Asus hopefully will release theirs uncluding Samsung...

Media enthusiasts with quad core HTPC's should google 'frame doubling interpolation' and the first link shows a good guide to make MKV's look pretty good on standard 60 HZ LCDS...
REAL/ACTUAL 120hz LCD monitors DO exist. Loads of computer monitor LCD monitors are REAL 120hz. No TV is REAL 120hz currently. All TVs use frame doubling or interpolation or something. Real 120hz computer monitors will not make any movie look smoother since it's just 24FPS, but games will be a LOT smoother granted that you can get FPS well above 60. Real 120hz monitors accept 120hz input. 120hz TVs only accept 60hz input


You working at best buy gives you no grounds to pretend to know something that you obviously know nothing about.
Edited by De-Zant - 4/15/11 at 12:45pm
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