Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Technology and Science News › [IO9] Spacetime invisibility cloaks can hide entire events inside temporal voids
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[IO9] Spacetime invisibility cloaks can hide entire events inside temporal voids - Page 2

post #11 of 139
Quote:
Originally Posted by RonindeBeatrice View Post
I think it's actually less useful than an invisibility cloak. If you can give me one instance for which this would beat an (much more feasible) invisibility cloak, I'd love to hear it.
Go rob a bank, cameras won't pick you up, you have time to get in and out of the safe without alarms or anything going on because people are essentially frozen. With a cloak, you still have motion sensors, alarms and the exits getting closed down.

Also the goods might not fit under your cloak. You're invisible but not the stuff you have.
Rig
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770k @ 4.5 ASUS P8Z77-V Pro EVGA 680 SC Corsair Vengence 16GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Sandisk 250GB SSD OCZ Vertex 4 120GB OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 6TB Various Storage 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H80 7 Ultimate x64 Acer Saitek Cyborg V.5 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair TX750 Fractal Design Define R4 w/ Window Logitech G700s Antec Lansing 
  hide details  
Reply
Rig
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770k @ 4.5 ASUS P8Z77-V Pro EVGA 680 SC Corsair Vengence 16GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Sandisk 250GB SSD OCZ Vertex 4 120GB OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 6TB Various Storage 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H80 7 Ultimate x64 Acer Saitek Cyborg V.5 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair TX750 Fractal Design Define R4 w/ Window Logitech G700s Antec Lansing 
  hide details  
Reply
post #12 of 139
This appears to make sense in conventional physics.

Problem is that this whole problem lies comfortably within the world of plank's constant and quantum mechanics, with some help from special relativity and general relativity.

There are a lot of problems with this idea.

The first is that to slow down the photon it needs to be shot into a very dense object.

The essential problem is that this won't be a simple machine with an off on switch.

Photons behave like waves when they are interacting with other photons and like particles when they interact with matter (and I stress the word LIKE in both cases).

They are chargeless and have no mass. That means that your machine cannot work on the basis of electromagnetism to slow down photons since a photon has no charge. And you can't use some sort of 'light field' because light will behave like a wave when it hits the field and won't be affected at all because there's no way to create a field where you can perfectly shift the phase and compensate for the different frequencies of light striking it fast enough to shield what's inside.

Anyways, theres one even bigger problem.

If at time=0 seconds there is light departing from the object to be shielded and at that instant the "machine" is turned on then you have the old image of the object still travelling to the observer at 3*10^8 meters per second (the speed of light).

But directly behind those lightwaves are now the ones that have been slowed down to around 26 meters per second.

At time=0 those two sets of photons are at the same point.

But in a mere second the first set has travelled several thousand times faster then the ones that have been slowed down.

So the observer sees the original image, but once those photons pass by him he no longer sees the original photons, and he cannot see the ones that have been slowed down because they are still a long ways off.

So all that he sees is a black bubble where the machine is, at short distances it means less then a second, at great distances it can mean several seconds.

In essence, this machine essentially makes a black bubble which is completely obvious to any observer.

What's even weirder is that once the machine is turned off, if the observer is far enough away, he will see the new "not slowed down" photons before he sees the ones that have been slowed down.
Edited by Singular1ty - 4/13/11 at 9:25am
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Haswell I7 4790k Asus Maximus VII Formula 980 Ti 8 gigabytes 
Optical DriveOSPowerCase
Blu Ray Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit 750 watts HAF-X 
Mouse
Mionix Naos 5000 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Haswell I7 4790k Asus Maximus VII Formula 980 Ti 8 gigabytes 
Optical DriveOSPowerCase
Blu Ray Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit 750 watts HAF-X 
Mouse
Mionix Naos 5000 
  hide details  
Reply
post #13 of 139
Thread Starter 
I have always thought OLED pliable screens were the beginning of invisibility cloaks..... Just make a pliable video screen that can be made in to clothes with microscopic cameras all around..... more or less have it project on the screen what is directly behind it.
SuperMegaPwnsauce
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 4770k Asus Z87-PRO MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X Gskill Ripjaws X 19200 16GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 Windows 10 Home 64Bit  Dell S2716DG 2K 144hz G-Sync 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum Seasonic Flagship PRIME TITANIUM 650W Fractal Design Define R5 W/ 3 Phanteks PH-F140S... Logitech G Pro 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
PC Gaming Master Race Glorious XXXL Pad & Razer... Creative Sound Blaster Z & Schiit M&M 2 Uber/Mu... HifiMan HE400i & Antlion ModMic 4.0 
  hide details  
Reply
SuperMegaPwnsauce
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 4770k Asus Z87-PRO MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X Gskill Ripjaws X 19200 16GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 Windows 10 Home 64Bit  Dell S2716DG 2K 144hz G-Sync 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum Seasonic Flagship PRIME TITANIUM 650W Fractal Design Define R5 W/ 3 Phanteks PH-F140S... Logitech G Pro 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
PC Gaming Master Race Glorious XXXL Pad & Razer... Creative Sound Blaster Z & Schiit M&M 2 Uber/Mu... HifiMan HE400i & Antlion ModMic 4.0 
  hide details  
Reply
post #14 of 139
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benladesh View Post
And then by the age of 50, you're an old withered man because you've been using this too much.
You've got in backwards.

Your ENVIRONMENT ages, you don't.

But this is light years into the future, literally. It requires perfecting light-speed travel first.
White Phoenix
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-2600k Gigabyte P67A-UD7-B3 GTX 480 SLi G.Skill 16GB (4x4GB) 1600/CL7 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial C300 256GB LG 6x BD-RW/HD-DVD Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate 64-bit Dell 'PLP' - 2007FP | 3007WFP-HC | 2007FP 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G510 Silverstone 1000w [80A]-Rail Antec p190 (Modded) Logitech G700 
Mouse Pad
Steelpad SteelSeries Experience I-2 
  hide details  
Reply
White Phoenix
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-2600k Gigabyte P67A-UD7-B3 GTX 480 SLi G.Skill 16GB (4x4GB) 1600/CL7 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial C300 256GB LG 6x BD-RW/HD-DVD Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate 64-bit Dell 'PLP' - 2007FP | 3007WFP-HC | 2007FP 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G510 Silverstone 1000w [80A]-Rail Antec p190 (Modded) Logitech G700 
Mouse Pad
Steelpad SteelSeries Experience I-2 
  hide details  
Reply
post #15 of 139
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benladesh View Post
And then by the age of 50, you're an old withered man because you've been using this too much.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0389860/
Edited by _Chimera - 4/13/11 at 9:43am
post #16 of 139
Quote:
Originally Posted by killeraxemannic View Post
Thats right everyone! Its coming!





Not sure about you guys but if I get my hands on one of these bad boys its gonna be housed inside a blue police box

http://io9.com/#!5691060/spacetime-i...temporal-voids
... Can i be your sexy companion?
Tardis
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
|2500k @ 4.4Ghz vcore 1.40| MSI P67A-GD65 290X G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 1600Mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
C300 64GB SSD - 500GB HDD - 840 250GB SSD Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 3 HP LA2405wg 24'' 1920x1200 @5760x1200 Corsair 850watts 
CaseMouse
NZXT Phantom Black G500 
  hide details  
Reply
Tardis
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
|2500k @ 4.4Ghz vcore 1.40| MSI P67A-GD65 290X G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 1600Mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
C300 64GB SSD - 500GB HDD - 840 250GB SSD Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 3 HP LA2405wg 24'' 1920x1200 @5760x1200 Corsair 850watts 
CaseMouse
NZXT Phantom Black G500 
  hide details  
Reply
post #17 of 139
Revofev
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 950 EVGA E770 2x EVGA GTX 570 6GB Mushkin Redline Ridgeback 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
128GB Crucial M4/ 4x1TB WD Black/ 1TB F3 Lite-On 24x Win 7 Ultimate x64 Acer H233H 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 2 w/ Red Switches Corsair AX850 800D Logitech G500 
Mouse Pad
Steelseries QcK+ 
  hide details  
Reply
Revofev
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 950 EVGA E770 2x EVGA GTX 570 6GB Mushkin Redline Ridgeback 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
128GB Crucial M4/ 4x1TB WD Black/ 1TB F3 Lite-On 24x Win 7 Ultimate x64 Acer H233H 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 2 w/ Red Switches Corsair AX850 800D Logitech G500 
Mouse Pad
Steelseries QcK+ 
  hide details  
Reply
post #18 of 139
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zcypot View Post
... Can i be your sexy companion?
Do you look anything like this?


SuperMegaPwnsauce
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 4770k Asus Z87-PRO MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X Gskill Ripjaws X 19200 16GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 Windows 10 Home 64Bit  Dell S2716DG 2K 144hz G-Sync 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum Seasonic Flagship PRIME TITANIUM 650W Fractal Design Define R5 W/ 3 Phanteks PH-F140S... Logitech G Pro 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
PC Gaming Master Race Glorious XXXL Pad & Razer... Creative Sound Blaster Z & Schiit M&M 2 Uber/Mu... HifiMan HE400i & Antlion ModMic 4.0 
  hide details  
Reply
SuperMegaPwnsauce
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 4770k Asus Z87-PRO MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X Gskill Ripjaws X 19200 16GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 Windows 10 Home 64Bit  Dell S2716DG 2K 144hz G-Sync 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum Seasonic Flagship PRIME TITANIUM 650W Fractal Design Define R5 W/ 3 Phanteks PH-F140S... Logitech G Pro 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
PC Gaming Master Race Glorious XXXL Pad & Razer... Creative Sound Blaster Z & Schiit M&M 2 Uber/Mu... HifiMan HE400i & Antlion ModMic 4.0 
  hide details  
Reply
post #19 of 139
Quote:
Originally Posted by Track View Post
You've got in backwards.

Your ENVIRONMENT ages, you don't.

But this is light years into the future, literally. It requires perfecting light-speed travel first.
Quote:
and the observer now sees you again as you are right now - or at least as you were a nanosecond ago. That minute is a temporally compressed blip that the observer cannot perceive.
If you are in the "bubble" that goes by quicker, you will age by a minute while the people outside of said "bubble" will age by a nanosecond. If you have a minute while others have a nanosecond, you're body will age accordingly. No?
Rig
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770k @ 4.5 ASUS P8Z77-V Pro EVGA 680 SC Corsair Vengence 16GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Sandisk 250GB SSD OCZ Vertex 4 120GB OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 6TB Various Storage 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H80 7 Ultimate x64 Acer Saitek Cyborg V.5 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair TX750 Fractal Design Define R4 w/ Window Logitech G700s Antec Lansing 
  hide details  
Reply
Rig
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770k @ 4.5 ASUS P8Z77-V Pro EVGA 680 SC Corsair Vengence 16GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Sandisk 250GB SSD OCZ Vertex 4 120GB OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 6TB Various Storage 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H80 7 Ultimate x64 Acer Saitek Cyborg V.5 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair TX750 Fractal Design Define R4 w/ Window Logitech G700s Antec Lansing 
  hide details  
Reply
post #20 of 139
Awesome article. Reminds me of "The Girl Who Leapt Through time"
Sandy Bridge
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 2600k 4.5ghz Asrock P67 Extreme 4 Evga Gtx 570 HD G.Skill 8gb 1600mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung Spinpoint F3 Crucial M4 128GB  LitleOn Dvd drive Corsair H50 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 64bit Dell U2412m Corsair HX750 Cooler Master HAF X 
Audio
Onboard 
  hide details  
Reply
Sandy Bridge
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 2600k 4.5ghz Asrock P67 Extreme 4 Evga Gtx 570 HD G.Skill 8gb 1600mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung Spinpoint F3 Crucial M4 128GB  LitleOn Dvd drive Corsair H50 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 64bit Dell U2412m Corsair HX750 Cooler Master HAF X 
Audio
Onboard 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Technology and Science News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Technology and Science News › [IO9] Spacetime invisibility cloaks can hide entire events inside temporal voids