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Hello everyone. Just registered on the forums (been lurking for a long time). Thought I'd do a review on my Logitech G500, simply cos I felt like it. There are a lot of reviews out there on this mouse. However, the problem with reviews on gaming peripherals in general is that often the reviewers don't spend enough time with the product, or don't have the same requirements that the average gamer does. This is why I love sites like overclock.net to see "non-professional" people's take on a product. I will try to describe the things you might not get from other reviews.

Let me start with the basics. I've used the g500 for about a month on a razer sphex mousepad. The games I have played most with this mouse are battlefield bad company 2, Call of Duty: black ops, starcraft 2 and World of Warcraft. I've used several other "gaming mice" I can use for comparison. Most notably the logitech G5 and a Razer deathadder V1&V2.

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Shape / Feel / Appearance
When looking at the G500 you will immediately recognize the shape of the MX 518 and G5. While it is not exactly the same, it's pretty close, and people who either loved or hated the shape of those mice will feel the same about the g500. Whether the shape works for you depends on playstyle, grip, and size of your hands. The only way to tell whether you'd like it is actually trying it out for yourself. Taking into account that it's a "tried-and-true" shape that has been loved over several generations of logitech gaming mice, I'd guess that most (right-handed) people appreciate the shape of this mouse. Personally I love the shape, and use what I describe as a "loose palm grip" (do a proper palm grip, then relax your hand). I like that the mouse has a big contoured body that properly fits my hand. I don't feel any pain or discomfort even during long gaming sessions.

The coating on the top of the mouse (the print) is sort of a smooth plastic. While it does not have the rubberized coating of the G5 v2, it doesn't feel slippery and has not caused any discomfort. The sides of the mouse are a hard plastic, but have a gritty sandlike feel to them. It provides enough friction to make sure you keep a firm grip on the mouse, without the sandlike material getting irritating. On both the left and right side there is an indentation for the thumb and the pinky/ring finger, making the mouse easy to lift when gaming.

The mouse comes with adjustable weights. You can change the weight of the mouse by taking out a removable cartridge that can fit 6 weights of either 1.7g or 4.5g. Nice for those people who are finicky about the weight of a mouse. However, even without the weights, it is worth noting that the mouse is already heavier then average (noticeably heavier then the deathadder for example). Most people probably wont feel the need to add weights on this mouse. In fact, depending on playstyle and preference, some may find it already too heavy even without the weights. It is also a little heavier at the nose then the back without any weights installed in the mouse. This makes the mouse a little off balance.

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Sidebuttons / Dpi buttons / Scrollwheel
The side-buttons on the G500 have been criticized quite a lot in reviews. The main argument was that the buttons are too close together, and you wouldn't be able to feel which of the three buttons you are using. Even when using the mouse for the first time and playing black ops, a game which requires quick reflexes, I did not even once push the wrong side-button. Because of their location and shape, it is actually quite easy to tell which one you are pushing. The middle-side button is rested a little lower on the mouse and doesn't stick out as much as the other two buttons. You either almost touch it or rest your thumb up against it while gaming. When you lift your thumb to push the other side buttons, you can clearly feel their edges, letting you know where your thumb is. Even coming from the deathadder, with its two huge side-buttons, it felt good. The side-button all the way out front may be a little hard to reach for people with smaller thumbs/hands (comparable to reaching the 2nd side-button on the deathadder). To my surprise I quite like the design of the side-buttons, even though I expected that Logitech dropped the ball on this one. The buttons are easy to click and require a minimal amount of force. Some people will like this (I do) while others prefer a firm press and a more pronounced audible and tactile feedback when using them.

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The location of the DPI buttons near your index finger is a huge step up from having them somewhere near the palm of your hand. The button out front (+) is very easy to use, while the other button (-) is a tad harder to reach with the index finger. Neither get in the way when clicking the left mouse button. It should be noted that you don't have to use these buttons as DPI switches. The logitech setpoint software allows you to assign any key on the keyboard to these buttons, so you could also use them to throw a grenade in an FPS or bind an ability to them in an MMO.

I'm really not a fan of the scrollwheel on the G500. It feels wobbly and inaccurate. While the scrolling is fine (its easy to go through your weapons click-by-click in an FPS for example), I found the scrollwheel-click almost impossible to use. Even after stubbornly using it for a while now, I still accidentally scroll or tilt the wheel left or right (sideways-scroll) every now and then. It's like they took the scrollwheel from their regular consumer mice, like the MX revolution, and stuck it on a gaming mouse. The result is predictable: Its great for surfing the web and other regular tasks, but quite horrible for gaming. The horizontal tilt-scroll and the dual mode scroll (click the button at the palm of the mouse and the wheel goes from a click-by-click wheel to a smooth wheel with no resistance) are great on a regular mouse. It just has no business being on a gaming mouse. I'm sure there are people who stick with it, and are able to use it with surgical precision and lightning speed, but I gave up on it. Which is fine, since I was never a fan of the scroll-wheel click in fast paced games. For some however, I suspect this might be a deal breaker.

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Performance / Tracking
The G500 has an Avago 9500 laser sensor. As expected, its tracking on my Razer sphex hard pad was excellent in every way I could test it. The lift off distance seems to be very small as well. It is rumored that this sensor has a slight positive acceleration (even when you turn off acceleration in the software). I am not pro enough to notice any. Since laser mice don't always work well on cloth pads, I checked whether the sensor held up on a steelseries QcK. No elaborate testing was necessary. While I did not notice any obvious jittering, fast movements on the steelseries QcK resulted in noticeable negative acceleration.

The mouse boasts a 1000Hz polling rate and 5700 Dpi. Now those numbers sound nice, but to me increases in DPI stopped being useful after it passed 2000. I'm sure there are some who will find some use for that extremely high DPI, but most people will find it unnecessary. The high polling rate should theoretically be better, but I cant honestly say I notice any difference between 1000Hz and the 500Hz polling rate I am accustomed to. I end up using 500Hz anyway since I have no way of testing whether the 1000Hz polling rate is consistent. Knowing that success in competitive games is 95% practice and 5% everything else, you cant help but wonder how much something like this will help you anyway.

One noticeable thing about this mouse is that the sensor is not smack in the middle of the mouse like it usually is. Instead, the sensor is more towards the front of the mouse. This may have an effect on how the mouse feels. Imagine that if you make a peace sign with your hand, the sensor you are manipulating is now somewhere between your index and middle finger, instead of the palm of your hand. Now rotate that hand to the right using just your wrist. The distance the palm of your hand has traveled is much smaller then the distance the tip of your fingers (or the imaginary sensor between your fingers) have traveled. This is different from just playing with a higher sensitivity. Most people wont notice this. Some people may hate it, and some people may love it. The way I play, I love this about this mouse. But do realize it may take some getting used to, and may feel a little like positive acceleration at first.

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Sound / SOUND? Yes, Sound
One issue some Logitech mice have had is that they emit a high pitched humming sound, comparable to the humming noises TV's emit (if you don't know what I'm talking about, you can safely ignore this issue). Not many people notice it, but people with sensitive hearing hated it. The G5 and 518 had it, and the G500 unfortunately has it too. If you never noticed it before on the G5 or MX 518, it is most likely not going to be an issue now.

Conclusion
I really like the G500. I feel that it's comfortable to hold and has great tracking. I like the way the buttons are positioned, and after getting used to it, I learned to appreciate the front placed sensor. Like other laser mice, it has problems tracking on at least some cloth pads. So if cloth pads are your thing, you might be better off looking for a good optical mouse. The main problem I have with it is the scroll-wheel click. Its wobbly and loose, and it takes a lot of practice before you are actually able to use it properly in games. Overall I can recommend the mouse to anyone who finds its shape comfortable to use, but with some reservations. People should take note of the front positioned sensor (which is not necessarily bad, but some may not like it), the weight of the mouse, and the hard-to-use scrollwheel click.

I hope you enjoyed the review. I may do a few other gaming peripherals if people seem to like it.
Edited by kazuyamishima - 4/29/11 at 11:15am
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Great review! I'm currently using the G5 version 2 and I like it. I also have an MX518. I'm thinking of trying a cordless gaming mouse next.
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Originally Posted by Sheyster;13111123 
Great review! I'm currently using the G5 version 2 and I like it. I also have an MX518. I'm thinking of trying a cordless gaming mouse next.

Thank you for the comment smile.gif I appreciate it.

If you do go for a wireless mouse, and go for the logitech G700, then make sure you have a look at the "small movement problem" a lot of people seem to have when they use it wirelessly
http://forums.logitech.com/t5/G-series-Gaming-Mice/G700-and-small-mouse-movements/td-p/482089
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Originally Posted by kazuyamishima;13111522 
If you do go for a wireless mouse, and go for the logitech G700, then make sure you have a look at the "small movement problem" a lot of people seem to have when they use it wirelessly
http://forums.logitech.com/t5/G-series-Gaming-Mice/G700-and-small-mouse-movements/td-p/482089

Thanks for the tip.

I'm thinking of getting a Razer Mamba. That "small movement" would not be good in an FPS game. rolleyes.gifwink.gif
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great review man

Im thinking of replacing the RAT5 for a G500 or deathadder

but the things that are holding me abut the G500 is that scroll wheel problem (VERY common) and the weight (I hate the super heavy weight of my RAT, so I need a light mouse)

and for the Deathadder...the scroll wheel problem too (that make strange sounds) and the lift off distance...

so I dont know what to do xD
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I thought Id chime in and offer a different view smile.gif

I recently bought this mouse after using the prior gen G5 for years. I read a fair amount of mixed reviews but I dismissed them because of how much I loved my older G.

While I don’t discredit the above posters review, it was very well written, the performance and details listed above seem pretty spot on BUT I do however have to point out that the New model G500 is quite possibly the worst looking, cheap feeling piece of junk mouse you'll ever see above $20. (I paid 65)

I am not partial to the older rigid pattern top G5 per say but the new ones flat plastic feels like a non stick magic carpet (for us canadians lol) while maybe that isn’t a deal breaker it does however add to the feel of this mouse as a whole. Think hollow plastic car that you could could crush in your hand VS the older model that feels more like a steady, responsive .. rock

I would recommend against this mouse that seems more like a very cheap knock off of the original with an enticing extra button. frown.gif
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Originally Posted by EvilGenius;13129417 
I thought Id chime in and offer a different view smile.gif

I recently bought this mouse after using the prior gen G5 for years. I read a fair amount of mixed reviews but I dismissed them because of how much I loved my older G.

While I don’t discredit the above posters review, it was very well written, the performance and details listed above seem pretty spot on BUT I do however have to point out that the New model G500 is quite possibly the worst looking, cheap feeling piece of junk mouse you'll ever see above $20. (I paid 65)

I am not partial to the older rigid pattern top G5 per say but the new ones flat plastic feels like a non stick magic carpet (for us canadians lol) while maybe that isn’t a deal breaker it does however add to the feel of this mouse as a whole. Think hollow plastic car that you could could crush in your hand VS the older model that feels more like a steady, responsive .. rock

I would recommend against this mouse that seems more like a very cheap knock off of the original with an enticing extra button. frown.gif

I understand what you are saying. However, I think how much you like the look of the mouse comes down to personal preference. Just looking at it, I actually prefer this look to the G5 V1&V2. But Logitech has always gone for odd-looking prints that plenty of people will find off-putting.

Regarding the overall feel of the mouse. Not including the rubberized grip found on the G5 V2 is really a pity. I can understand that coming from that mouse, this mouse feels like a lower quality peace of kit just because of that. Once used to the nice rubberized coatings some mice have, mice that dont have this can feel "plasticky". The loose and wobbly mousewheel contributes to this feel.

However, apart from the wheel and the coating that is used, I did not feel like the build quality or overall feel of the mouse is cheap. But if they would make a G500 V2 with a mousewheel that is better suited for gaming, and a rubberized coating I would instantly buy it.
Edited by kazuyamishima - 4/15/11 at 12:33am
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They took the G5, which I loved, and fixed the button positioning. Favorite mouse of all time!
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While I really appreciate the responses I got, I wonder if I should add more gaming peripheral reviews.

On the one hand only 4 people replied, on the other over 300 people viewed the thread. If even only a quarter of those people liked/read the review, it seems worthwhile. Hard to tell though. If I put in that hour of work, is it for just 4 or 300 people?

May add a logitech g930 headset review, as well as a sidewinder x4 and some others.
Edited by kazuyamishima - 4/19/11 at 3:54pm
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The G500 is more resemble the both latest MX 518 & G5 design. Nice reviews.
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