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post #11 of 40
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Originally Posted by Phobos223 View Post
Just remember, when I said:

res->pump -> CPU -> 120Rad -> GPU1 -> GPU2 -> 240rad -> res

imagine bending that sentence into a cirlce where the 2 "res"s are one in the same
The coolest water possible IS going into the pump. After the hottest water (from the GPU's) goes into the biggest rad (the 240) it will settle in the res, and cool even further. Then it goes into the pump and repeats
I understand what your saying and completely agree, but this is the first I've seen it anywhere. Great minds think alike? lol
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You all do realize that the change in temp of the water after it's gone through the entire loop is less than 1C. A 1C difference in water temp won't make a difference. It's like having the a/c on 72 instead of 70. Loop order, even res before pump honestly does not matter as long as the pump is not trying to pump air. You can get a system started on it's side with the pump above the res and once the loop is bled it doesn't matter where the pump is.

I've done 1, 2, and 3 loops with my current setup as well as different combos of rads between different components. Single loop leads to best all around temps and radiators run one after another leads to best cpu temps. You want all of your radiators after your gpus and before your cpu. The cpu will heat up the water by .xx degrees C, but it will be less than what your gpus will and will be such a low amount that it will only affect your gpu temps by less than 1C. If you put a rad between the cpu and gpus then your cpu temps will increase, but by less than 1c.

Just run the loop however you think looks prettiest. People make this out to be rocket science when a mentally challenged 3 year old could put a quality loop together. If you don't think I know what I'm talking about take a look at the worklog in my sig. One of the most complex and high end loops on OCN.
 
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post #13 of 40
^^ totally agree, however, did you ever dump steamy hot water from 2 gpus straight into your res, and feel how hot it gets? How hot it makes everything around the res?

For sure the components in the loop will have the same temps albeit ~1C as you mentioned, but if you got a drive bay res (which I imagine he will since he donest have much space) you will heat up your other drive bay components and anything else nearby... even RAM possibly?

Again, not a huge deal, but why keep more heat in your case when you easily get rid of it by swapping 1 hose around
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post #14 of 40
In this case it won't matter, the hdds are situated far below where the res would be. It would be negligibly better to have the loop run like this res>pump>rad>rad>cpu>gpu>gpu>res bc it'll give the rads a chance to get rid of the heat dumped by the pump. realistically tho it won't matter. A pump only dumps in ~18 watts to the loop. Bay hardware isn't really temp sensitive, bluray/dvd drives that is since they aren't heavily used very often. There won't be heat problems with that case period. OP, don't worry about anything. Please just set it up how you think it flows/ looks best.
 
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post #15 of 40
Hey Bram,

Looks like a sweet setup you've got there

Like the fat one above says, I would go with the loop you think is the best.
Allthough, personally I would get a rad between the gpu's and the res, but thats just me.
Your res wont melt(I hope so...) and everything will be fine
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You won't be able to get a 120 radiator+fan in the back fan opening and have it all inside the case. The 240 radiator will be in the way.

You can fit the radiator in there if it is not a thick one, and put the fan on the outside.

Even with a relatively slim radiator, like the Swiftech MCR220, you may run into clearance issues with components along the top edge of the motherboard.
I had to notched the frame of my MCR220 to clear the 8 pin power connector on my motherboard.

The 600T isn't very water cooling friendly if you want an all internal loop and don't want to mod anything.
Edited by Caleal - 4/13/11 at 4:59pm
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Hmm, thanks guys, gonna think about my loop here, a bit and do some research.
well Caleal can you upload some pics of what you're trying to clear, i get the point but i would like to see how and what exactly.
Because i personaly think i would be a tight fit, maybe i shouldn't get a Thick 120mm then and just go for a normal one.

Thanks all i'll keep you posted, have to wait 2 more weeks untill i can start wc-ing

Edit * :
As i was thinking, i could ofc get 2 Thick Rad's. that would only force me to mount the 120 outside of the case with a 120x120x38mm inside pushing, and make the Tube go inside with some angled 90 fittings. what about that any expierence, or ideas to do or not to ?
Edited by AoHxBram - 4/14/11 at 5:44am
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Just found out that i have the CNCD version
and the EK blocks need the CNCF version,
why havent i thought of this before
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Hmm, thanks guys, gonna think about my loop here, a bit and do some research.
well Caleal can you upload some pics of what you're trying to clear, i get the point but i would like to see how and what exactly.
Because i personaly think i would be a tight fit, maybe i shouldn't get a Thick 120mm then and just go for a normal one.

Thanks all i'll keep you posted, have to wait 2 more weeks untill i can start wc-ing

Edit * :
As i was thinking, i could ofc get 2 Thick Rad's. that would only force me to mount the 120 outside of the case with a 120x120x38mm inside pushing, and make the Tube go inside with some angled 90 fittings. what about that any expierence, or ideas to do or not to ?
Registered just to post this.

TS, be extremely careful about your radiator choice. The tolerances are epic.

I've got all the experience with this case you need













So yes, Don't bother with anything thicker.
I wouldn't worry about the head loss caused by the 90 degree fittings. At most, if things go too bad (which is unlikely), just brute force the solution with two pumps in series!

P.S 1/4" ID 3/8" OD tubing FTW! Take that all you fat tube users!

Oh, I never went through the air cooling phase. my first real rig was an (integrated) liquid cooled Thermatake Tai Chi.
Edited by Fatfool - 4/16/11 at 5:14am
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Registered just to post this.

TS, be extremely careful about your radiator choice. The tolerances are epic.

I've got all the experience with this case you need

pictures were here

So yes, Don't bother with anything thicker.
I wouldn't worry about the head loss caused by the 90 degree fittings. At most, if things go too bad (which is unlikely), just brute force the solution with two pumps in series!

P.S 1/4" ID 3/8" OD tubing FTW! Take that all you fat tube users!

Oh, I never went through the air cooling phase. my first real rig was an (integrated) liquid cooled Thermatake Tai Chi.
well can u give me some advice, cause im a wc newbie, do you think the Nornal Black Ice Gt's wil fit in the case, or should i go with something else ?
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