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I wonder if I can drop on into my 790X mobo by simply updating the microcode....
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Originally Posted by TheStealthyOne View Post
I really hope Biostar gives support for this >_<
Yeah me too. But I wanna know what bottleneck or features are "clamped" if they work just fine on AM3 boards, that's my deciding factor.
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as cool as the Phenom ii 1090t is, it requires a 4 Ghz overclock and a 2600 NB overclock to equal stock i5 2500 performance (judging from Cinebench 11.5 scores)

Which means it's already freakin fast enough as it is for me, to be honest.
     
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Originally Posted by Kvjavs View Post
http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...55-2011-a.html

Just link me anything regarding physical specifications on Bulldozer

Or here's another site, same article:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...the-next-gen/1
I stand corrected, I missed that.

However, I still don't think this is a big deal. ASUS and MSI (maybe more to come) are trustworthy and have listed boards that will work with BD. How well... we don't know -- but it will work. If you have one of those boards then you are OK (or you can buy new if you want) . The rest of us must buy a new board.

More info is nice, but I fail to see how anybody is confused about their upgrade path at this point.
Edited by JCPUser - 4/13/11 at 11:00pm
post #45 of 60
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Originally Posted by Armand Hammer View Post
Heh, As soon as I saw this thread I thought the same thing.

Poor old Obakemono he's wasted so much time and effort trying to debunk this.
From the article:

While AMD is expected to finally launch its new processor architecture in the coming months, the former founder of Sunnyvale-clarifies the issue of compatibility. It is quite possible to install the new AM3 + on AM3 motherboards.

So far AMD is known for its policy of continuity platforms. Unlike the waltz sockets at Intel, the average lifetime of a socket from AMD is long, very long, a pledge of scalability for the buyer. Bulldozer with the code name for the architecture of future AMD processors, a doubt remained at this level. Physical examination of AM3 + highlighted a keyed different from the current Socket AM3 suggesting that AM3 + additional boarding with a pin. Asus and MSI have recently challenged this theory in turn by announcing that their current AM3 motherboards are compatible with future AM3 +.

The ball was then returned to the camp that AMD has to decide. Steve Bourdon, France AMD spokesman, confirmed that he indeed will indeed possible to install a processor AM3 + on a motherboard with a socket AM3. But this is not recommended! Not that there is a concern for stability, but rather a clamping functions. Thus, certain characteristics of the new AMD FX, Zambezi, are disabled on AM3 platforms. No way to know, however, what features it is and no way of knowing either the usefulness of this keyed that ultimately does not seem worried.

HAHA. And I did not say it, they did. Helps to read the entire post. I copied it for you both to enjoy. Sheds a bit more light to the fact why AMD is not supporting BD on AM3.
Wow, you both must be really let down that there was no Obakemono **** storm. HAHA. Thanks for the good laugh.


http://www.overclock.net/13099843-post27.html
Edited by Obakemono - 4/13/11 at 6:20pm
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post #46 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by Obakemono View Post
From the article:

While AMD is expected to finally launch its new processor architecture in the coming months, the former founder of Sunnyvale-clarifies the issue of compatibility. It is quite possible to install the new AM3 + on AM3 motherboards.

So far AMD is known for its policy of continuity platforms. Unlike the waltz sockets at Intel, the average lifetime of a socket from AMD is long, very long, a pledge of scalability for the buyer. Bulldozer with the code name for the architecture of future AMD processors, a doubt remained at this level. Physical examination of AM3 + highlighted a keyed different from the current Socket AM3 suggesting that AM3 + additional boarding with a pin. Asus and MSI have recently challenged this theory in turn by announcing that their current AM3 motherboards are compatible with future AM3 +.

The ball was then returned to the camp that AMD has to decide. Steve Bourdon, France AMD spokesman, confirmed that he indeed will indeed possible to install a processor AM3 + on a motherboard with a socket AM3. But this is not recommended! Not that there is a concern for stability, but rather a clamping functions. Thus, certain characteristics of the new AMD FX, Zambezi, are disabled on AM3 platforms. No way to know, however, what features it is and no way of knowing either the usefulness of this keyed that ultimately does not seem worried.

HAHA. And I did not say it, they did. Helps to read the entire post. I copied it for you both to enjoy. Sheds a bit more light to the fact why AMD is not supporting BD on AM3.
Wow, you both must be really let down that there was no Obakemono **** storm. HAHA. Thanks for the good laugh.


http://www.overclock.net/13099843-post27.html
Now now Obakemono, no need to kick up a **** storm!

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Very poorly handled and it's not even a major issue. Intel had a major chipset issue and they managed it like champs.
I don't really see an issue nor how the Intel's chipset issue is relevant here.
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i am willing to have a BD on AM3, even if some features are not there. It's still a BD.

Come on, they did the same thing where u put a Phenom II on AM2+, the hypertransport ran at 1800 instead of 2000.
     
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i am willing to have a BD on AM3, even if some features are not there. It's still a BD.

Come on, they did the same thing where u put a Phenom II on AM2+, the hypertransport ran at 1800 instead of 2000.
Not really... AMD supported AM2 in AM2+ and AM3 in AM2+. This time they have changed their stance. Logic suggests that since they have changed their stance -- past experiences may not be indicative of the future.
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Hopefully the CPU will still be faster than current ones even with the restricted features

If it is, then I'll be happy. But if the current x6 is on par with the new x6 then I'll be kinda disappointed. Especially if the 8 core BD is on par with the previous i7's with restrictions.

But if the 4 core is on par with previous i7's with the restricted features, or even close, I'll be happy.
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