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I'd like to build quiet desktop for gaming. I know that probably w/o any fanless gpu/cpu coolers I can't make it almost inaudible like some of notebooks - but maybe really really quiet.

I'd like it to be phenom ii based since my budget is restricted and here in Poland we don't have electronics as cheap as in US. I'd rather get faster gpu over faster cpu.
In near future i'd like to make swap to Bulldozer not sure if with new mobo or with just updated BIOS of this posted under.

CPU: Phenom II X4 X4 955 ~ 160$
MB: MSI 870-C45 ~ 81$
RAM: Corsair XMS3 CL9 2x4gb 1333MHz ~ 107$ (I kinda need this for cad/cam software)
GPU: Gainward GTX560Ti Phantom ~ 303$
Case: Cooler Master Elite 333 ~ 58$
PSU: Seasonic S12II Bronze 520W ~ 98$ (or Fractal Design Tesla 550W same price)
HDD: Samsung F3 500GB ~ 56$

* I'm not sure which cooler for CPU choose. Any advice ? I'd like to OC cpu to 3.5-3.6GHz
* If you'd change something in my config - what would it be ? Keep silence in mind
* Should I consider case fans ?

I'm planing to buy Dell U2311H as screen but I'm not 100% sure if it's good choice. I know it has beautiful colors but won't it have ghosting in games ?

cheers
truly

Prices are converted from PLN to $ basing on actual currency rate!

EDIT: Now post is good Sorry for previous one.
EDIT2: Changed silent for quiet
Edited by truly - 4/13/11 at 3:04pm
post #2 of 14
Yes.
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"Silent" is "inaudible." What you're talking about is "quiet" and not "silent."

The secret to making a quiet system is to use parts that don't need as much cooling. This means the Phenom II is not that great of a choice.

For a cooler, depends on how quiet you want it. In a sense, any big cooler with a bunch of heatpipes and a 120mm or 140mm fan can be pretty quiet if the fan runs at low RPMs. There are also some heatsinks specifically made for quiet operation, such as the Scythe Ninja 3 SCNJ-3000 or the Thermaltake HR02.

Why would that Dell monitor have any ghosting in games? Do you realize that a lot of monitor manufacturers fudge numbers when it comes to refresh rates? There's also different ways of measuring.
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You're right I used wrong word. Sorry.

I'm a bit worried about big tower heatsinks that weight 700g isn't it too much for cpu socket ?

Do you suggest me to get i5 instead of phenom II to get really quiet system ? I would have to sacrifice gtx560ti and get gtx 460 or gtx 550ti or hd6850 - but they're not capable of playing games in 1080p smooth with high settings ;/

About dell - it's an IPS panel, many of IPS panel 'ghost' in games, that's why I asked about it.
Edited by truly - 4/13/11 at 3:04pm
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I'm a bit worried about big tower heatsinks that weight 700g isn't it too much for cpu socket ?
Most bigger heatsinks have some kind of bolt-through mounting so not an issue. Heck, MOST overclockers these days use big heatsinks like that.

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Do you suggest me to get i5 instead of phenom II to get really quiet system ? I would have to sacrifice gtx560ti and get gtx 460 or gtx 550ti or hd6850 - but they're not capable of playing games in 1080p smooth with high settings ;/
The i5 would run a lot cooler. A 2500K is a 95W CPU and that's including the built-in graphics core which you wouldn't be using. A Phenom II X4 955 is a 125W CPU. Also, the 2500K would idle super low. When you're just doing stuff like web browsing or other non-intensive tasks, as long as you leave power management running (which you totally can do and still overclock with these Sandy Bridge CPUs) it will be almost as power efficient as an Atom. Couple that with performance better than any quad core Nehalem and you have a winner!

If you have to cut back on GPU (which hurts) get a GTX 460 1GB, but NOT the LE version.

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About dell - it's an IPS panel, many of IPS panel 'ghost' in games, that's why I asked about it.
Strange. I have a Dell 2005FPW as my secondary monitor, but BITD I gamed on it, and don't recall any ghosting. Only TN screens have the super low claimed 2ms refresh, so you need to decide for that or for better color/angles.
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Yeah I'll think about getting i5 with slower graphics (and you mean NOT SE ver. which suggest that is SecondEdition and in fact is worse hehe) but there is another problem - 2500K you can only overclock only on P67 mainboars right ? That's another 80$ to cut from other stuff or from screen. Unless there is a way to o/c on H61. Even if I get P67 I don't think I will need more than 2400 i5 because I'm not 'power' overclocker - this +4 multiplier (400mhz overclock) sounds ok for me...
Well I used to have 3.8GHz on E8400 but SB just beat everything hehe

Gtx 460 is faster than 6850 or just tun cooler in general ?

And as I wrote in first post - maybe I could just get Phenom II now and swap it for Bulldozer later.
Theoretically it should be fast and have lower TDP.

Is there any chance to switch graphics like in notebooks to intel gpu to save power consumption and lower noise when I don't need my gtx 460/560 ?

Tough choice it is
Edited by truly - 4/14/11 at 4:51am
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To be honest for a V.quiet gaming rig an i3 or Athlon II X2 at the 45W range would be ok!
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Yeah I'll think about getting i5 with slower graphics (and you mean NOT SE ver. which suggest that is SecondEdition and in fact is worse hehe)
Let's call it the CE for Crappy Edition.

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2500K you can only overclock only on P67 mainboars right ? That's another 80$ to cut from other stuff or from screen.
If you aren't overclocking then get whichever quad Sandy Bridge you want.

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And as I wrote in first post - maybe I could just get Phenom II now and swap it for Bulldozer later.
Theoretically it should be fast and have lower TDP.
If you're willing to bet your motherboard on something that's not out yet and that doesn't have any reviews, that's your prerogative.

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Is there any chance to switch graphics like in notebooks to intel gpu to save power consumption and lower noise when I don't need my gtx 460/560 ?
No, until Intel Z68 chipset comes out for Sandy Bridge, when used in conjunction with Lucid software. The chipset supposedly comes out May 8th. I'd wait for reviews on how well the switching works before buying.
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I'm just going to throw this out there, maybe put in a few extra $, get an AMD six-core, and lock two of the cores, watch the temps and power usage drop. I've heard of people doing it, but I don't know how you would go about doing it.
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So you think this could run cooler than X4 ?
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