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and updating your vid drivers definitely couldnt hurt since im sure they have been some improvements on the drivers that would help you out on fps there tongue.gif
 
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Originally Posted by AtomicFrost;13121496 
Try running this from the cmd line: tracert www.google.com and tracert www.steampowered.com

on the www.google.com all but 9 results come back under 100 on the second run it was over 127ms for all 3 runs, on the 3rd it got higher with the lowest of the 3 being 143ms

the first run on number 4 hit 1,128ms but they dropped to 97 on the second and it hit 1,706ms on the 8th run first set as well but that then dropped as well

but the steampowered one timed out one of them and was alot higher then the google one, seems like my internet doesnt like steam? even though i get good download speed via it
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArmageddonAsh;13121579 
on the www.google.com all but 9 results come back under 100 on the second run it was over 127ms for all 3 runs, on the 3rd it got higher with the lowest of the 3 being 143ms

the first run on number 4 hit 1,128ms but they dropped to 97 on the second and it hit 1,706ms on the 8th run first set as well but that then dropped as well

but the steampowered one timed out one of them and was alot higher then the google one, seems like my internet doesnt like steam? even though i get good download speed via it

as long as there are no missed hops thats a good sign that its not your connection. You would be surprised how little bandwidth games use.

Sorry I didn't read that all the way through, trying to do two things at once =\. 1,128ms is definitely bad lol, but the fact that it drops means something might be going on your connection. Try different sites just to get a feel for an average behavior. The other thing you can do is to go 192.168.100.1 or 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1, one of those should be your cable modem if thats what you are on and it should show you a signal that you are having on your line. If you goto dslreports and do a search you can find an acceptable range for your downstream and upstream. If those are out of whack you need to call your ISP out to do some line tests.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArmageddonAsh;13121579 
on the www.google.com all but 9 results come back under 100 on the second run it was over 127ms for all 3 runs, on the 3rd it got higher with the lowest of the 3 being 143ms

the first run on number 4 hit 1,128ms but they dropped to 97 on the second and it hit 1,706ms on the 8th run first set as well but that then dropped as well

but the steampowered one timed out one of them and was alot higher then the google one, seems like my internet doesnt like steam? even though i get good download speed via it

IMO if the ping issues / steampowerd time out happen outside of your home network, then it is an issue with your ISP. It sounds like you are having some packet loss going on there.

Is there a common point on both tests where you are experiencing the high ping / dropped connection?
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maybe you are getting bandwidth shaping or something like that due to the protocol steam is using.??
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skrumzy;13121593 
as long as there are no missed hops thats a good sign that its not your connection. You would be surprised how little bandwidth games use.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AtomicFrost;13121601 
IMO if the ping issues / steampowerd time out happen outside of your home network, then it is an issue with your ISP. It sounds like you are having some packet loss going on there.

Is there a common point on both tests where you are experiencing the high ping / dropped connection?

No, the high ping only happened like 3 times during each test then went right back down to under 100 in 5 of the cases and then under 300 in the last one, it timed out on 1 set of running the steam powered one.

I have run the steampowered.com one again, and again it was on the 14th run that it got the request timed out not a single one went above 217ms either

on the third time of running it it again got the request time out on the 14th run, maybe that could have something to do with my lag/cuts/disconnects i have been having?
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one last thing I want to mention before I head out is if you are using a splitter, I would attempt to take the splitter off the line and run the cable modem directly off the line that comes in your house. Splitters are hideous things to make cabling easier and degrade the signal quality. All of this I am assuming you are on a coaxial network if not I apologize.

Don't forget to check your cpu usage tip that I posted earlier.
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Originally Posted by Skrumzy;13121557 
That almost sounds like a cpu usage problem, when you are playing L4D try to alt tab out and do ctrl alt del to bring up task manager and look at your performance tab to see how much of your cpu you are using. Do this when you are at your desktop idling too. If your idling outside of a 1-5% then you have malware or something running in the background that you need to address.

thanks, while idling (well using firefox) and having a few things open i am ussually around 1% - 3% i will check it while playing L4D now as i have updated my Video driver as well so we will see if that has any effect on things

Also i ran an Avest test yesterday - i scanned EVERY file and it found nothing, so i dont think its malware or anything, will get malware bytes just to be safe
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArmageddonAsh;13121661 
No, the high ping only happened like 3 times during each test then went right back down to under 100 in 5 of the cases and then under 300 in the last one, it timed out on 1 set of running the steam powered one.

I have run the steampowered.com one again, and again it was on the 14th run that it got the request timed out not a single one went above 217ms either

on the third time of running it it again got the request time out on the 14th run, maybe that could have something to do with my lag/cuts/disconnects i have been having?

That could explain your issue. The game client is having multiple packets getting dropped (hence the lag) and this is causing the server to drop you. Do you have the steampowered one drop at the same hop always? or is it different? Also which hop is it dropping on? [copy / paste result of the dropped connection] biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by AtomicFrost;13121722 
That could explain your issue. The game client is having multiple packets getting dropped (hence the lag) and this is causing the server to drop you. Do you have the steampowered one drop at the same hop always? or is it different? Also which hop is it dropping on? [copy / paste result of the dropped connection] biggrin.gif

Its always the 14th hop and its all 3 numbers from that run how do i copy text from the CMD?

heres a pic of my CPU useage during a quick attempt at L4D, in which the stuttering is still happening

useage.jpg
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