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Bethesda have said somewhere that they are using the same modding system that everybody has grown accustomed to with oblivion so that the mod creators can jump right into Skyrim, so all the VRAM you have you can put to good use in that game.
anyone else think that is a little pathetic?
they are relying on the modding community to improve their textures?
    
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I think Skyrim will be amazing, I trust Bethesda and modding is part of the fun. Could it have better graphics out of the box? Sure, and I wish it did, but almost every game made could look better at this point. At the end of the day games I love are not defined by how close they are to the pinnacle of graphic technology. I do think it would be silly of Bethesda not to include Hi Res textures though...anyway I think we're going a bit off topic, hopefully the OP doesn't mind too much.
Edited by loveadventurer - 4/13/11 at 8:19pm
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I don't think it's pathetic it all that they kept the same modding system that worked so well in the past game that everyone has experience with. Believe me I like high res textures as much as the next guy but even if the game doesn't look any better than it does now in the gameplay vids I still think it looks alright. The biggest problem in my opinion with the graphics of Oblivion is the LOD cut off and pop in and the hills 300 yards away just being plain grass, that is what I really think mods are necessary for in Oblivion sharper textures up close is just a bonus. You can't really say if that will still be an issue in Skyrim but either way, there is no question that this game will be epic regardless of graphics.
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I don't think it's pathetic it all that they kept the same modding system that worked so well in the past game that everyone has experience with. Believe me I like high res textures as much as the next guy but even if the game doesn't look any better than it does now in the gameplay vids I still think it looks alright. The biggest problem in my opinion with the graphics of Oblivion is the LOD cut off and pop in and the hills 300 yards away just being plain grass, that is what I really think mods are necessary for in Oblivion sharper textures up close is just a bonus. You can't really say if that will still be an issue in Skyrim but either way, there is no question that this game will be epic regardless of graphics.
i have to wonder... people didn't start saying Crysis 2 looked like crap til they got it in their hands... online vids don't always give you the most detailed impression.
    
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Oh yea I agree, it will not look good enough for some people, maybe even many people, but I don't think that will be the downfall of the game. You must admit there is no where near the same amount of hype or expectations about the graphics of Skyrim as there was/is about Crysis 2. Either way none of that will matter to me, as much as I have prepared my computer to be able to make Skyrim as pretty as possible, they could release it in 8-bit for all I care, just so long as the quests and story and character progression is done.
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Is the tessellation power of nVidia cards really substantially better?
I banked on that and Crysis 2 being heavily affected by it, went w/ a 560 that runs @ 950 Mhz for $220. I think about 6950 2GB's all the time, lol.

It's really a toss up. It seems to pull between 170 and 230 watts depending on speeds and volts in BC2 or Crysis. Crysis still runs low frames on very high 4x AA though. Game needs one more 560, booo! But BC2 runs @ 90 to 120 and immerses me so much more...go figure.
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there are many threads on this....
and posting this in an actual "Camp's" thread is dangerous....
however, the Radeons are better at scaling, but have more driver issues, as well as more X-Fire issues with some recent games.
& *** is this supposed to mean???

is there some sort of encyclopaedic manual as to the rules of posting on this forum...?
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& *** is this supposed to mean???

is there some sort of encyclopaedic manual as to the rules of posting on this forum...?
Well there are the Terms of Service which as a new member you might want to read, but what he was referring to was the fact that posting such a general "which is better?" without going into specifics like usage or what he wants out of the card could easily just devolve into a close minded argument rather than a debate/discussion based on getting the OP the best card for his needs.
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Well there are the Terms of Service which as a new member you might want to read, but what he was referring to was the fact that posting such a general "which is better?" without going into specifics like usage or what he wants out of the card could easily just devolve into a close minded argument rather than a debate/discussion based on getting the OP the best card for his needs.
great thanks for the constructive advice but i cant find any information on the "Dangers" of the "Camps thread" ????
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g950 2gb is $20 more so is it really worth it. Also I plan on CF/SLI so which one is best for that?
Probably. For the buffer alone. Provided you don't have any serious concerns about CF bugs ruining day one game launches. IIRC, Crysis did nothing w/ SLI out of the box again for the sequel? So you have nasty bits on both sides of the fence. I don't think you could go wrong either way. Did I miss the part about you on a monitor that's 24" or higher? That might put you into at least 570 territory if you're thinking about Nvidia...which seems priced close to the 6950 2GB anyway. I've seen over 900 Megs being used for Bioshock 2, so go figure. BC2 uses and looks better. I'm eager to see BF3 numbers or details about the graphics or sound engines. Anyway, here's more ramblings from a 560 Ti owner usually prefer Nvidia's solutuions for the quiet coolers.

...impressions from a 560 Ti owner...

Just ran a 3D Mark 11 run @ 4800 Mhz on the RAM w/ a finally stable 950 Mhz on the Core. i5 760's going @ 3600.

P4711

What can a 6950 2GB (flashed to 6970) and overclocked get in 3D2K11 on a 3.5ish Ghz i5 quad?

From the very short time I had to play w/ a 6870 overclocked in BC2, I came away very disappointed in comparison. Of course every game is different. I still can't run Crysis for nothing. But w/ those settings above, BC2 can run w/ an avg of 90 FPS, MIN 60 @

1680 x 1050
4x AA (transparency 2x - supersample)
High details
HBAO on

MP Server online w/ 32 players across a variety of maps. The 6870 returned avg's of 60 @ lower quality levels. It was very disappointing.

I'd of gone w/ ATI 6950 2GB, but I jumped on the slickdeal for the 560 ($220 + 2 free games). I really wanna play though Crysis on Very High w/ at least 4x AA and it's tough on one 560 Ti. I think a 69(70) 2GB would do better than the 25~45 I'm seeing now in the 1st and 2nd levels on 560 Ti. Who knows.

Oh for power, I have seen mine pull the following on a cheap kill-a-watt:

EVGA GTX 560 Ti SC
VID: 1.067 V

Stock clocks, undervolted
170 watts
Core: 900 RAM: 4200 Voltage:0.975

Overclocked, overvolted
230 watts
Core: 950 RAM: 4800 Voltage:1.100

Temps range from 81C all the way up to 87C depending on room temps which seem to be around 28C recently. The card can't really be heard unless you're down by the case and listening to the exhaust. It definitely puts out heat in both directions courtesy of that hideous stock cooler. Hideous only that it should be going all out the back. The MSI's so much better IMO. Still, sitting up about 2, maybe 3 feet away, it's mixed right in w/ the sound of 5 1200 RPM SFLEX fans in a very quiet case.

I am starting to use Badaboom again. There's a trial offered, but it does help get videos on my phone much faster than Super and a CPU. The video and audio quality's superb, but I would like more than 320 Kbps audio or 2 channels. Not sure if AMD's got anything for this. Last time I used the Catalyst utility, it didn't go so well.

I'm very satisfied w/ the card now that I've got it clocked decently and reliably while keeping noise to the same low noise floors I came to expect from the GTX 260 216. If you do/did wind up w/ a 560, join the club and enter your clocks and VID!

/my 2 cents

I guess I'll go back and read the thread now, lol.
Edited by Jodiuh - 4/25/11 at 11:42pm
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