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Poll Results: Which Antec cooler do you own?

 
  • 54% (152)
    Antec Kühler H2O 620
  • 45% (129)
    Antec Kühler H2O 920
281 Total Votes  
post #1951 of 6063
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Originally Posted by FromUndaChz View Post

The 620 and H70 are not "performance" when it comes to water loops. They are small, self contained, maintenance free, closed water loops that are meant for silent computing and cooler temps at stock speeds or lower overclocks. The H80, the 920, and H100 are performance water loops which are capable of keeping even the hottest, highest clocked chips cool under heavy load - within the limits of normal 24/7 overclocks and even slightly beyond. Granted I suppose "performance" is more personal opinion than anything, seeing as though none of these coolers are really labeled "performance CPU coolers" in the grand scheme of things. I suppose you can call it what you like, but the point I was trying to make stands - And this point is, if the Kuhler 620 is disappointing, then buy a better performing loop and that will change. Please don't try to educate me on the capabilities of either the 620, the 920, or the H80 which are only coolers I've mentioned because I own and have experience with all three units.

You sir are a very arrogant man, and your arrogance clouds your judgement. However I am not surprised by your arrogance considering the part you are at. NO ONE was trying to educate you, I was simply stating my experience and mere facts; however after reading your post I insist you re educate yourself in this and a lot of "other" things.rolleyes.gif

I also have Experience with all 3 units. 4 620's, 1x 920 and a H70. Does that make my opinion more valid then yours?

Lets make one thing clear, Certainly these closed water loops such as the 620, 920, H70, H80, and even the H100 are NEVER going to be a true "performance" cooler, they wont be as good as say a custom water Loop, Heck I bet even a Rasa would bit the crap out of the H100.

That Being said, for what its worth, the 620 is in no way disappointing, its FAR from disappointing. If the Kuhler is disappointing then the True and Megahalems are also Disappointing. The Stock Intel Cooler is Disappointing, the Kuhler 620 is its FAR from disappointing.

Define Disappointing for us..
How do you find the 620 "disappointing"?

- It performs as good as "most" high end tower air cooler heat sinks.
- It doesn't cost a lot of money
- It doesn't take as much space or puts as much strain on the motherboard as a tower cooler
- Able to keep the CPU reasonably cool for most moderate oc's
(which serves the need of most overclockers, just look at this topic.)
- It has the added benefit of being quite if not near silent.


This alone gives most of us air cooler users an option and reasons to move away to something like the 620/920 even if its a few Cs behind the best air cooler, the price and added benefits makes up for it. however if you want more "performance" you are welcome to get something bigger like the 920 or H100 or a true performance loop.
Dont expect miracles from the 620, but for what its worth its far from disappointing and very much gives pretty good performance,



So what part of that is disappointing to you ?
Edited by TheBirdman74 - 6/9/12 at 5:41pm
post #1952 of 6063
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBirdman74 View Post

You sir are a very arrogant man, and your arrogance clouds your judgement. However I am not surprised by your arrogance considering the part you are at. NO ONE was trying to educate you, I was simply stating my experience and mere facts; however after reading your post I insist you re educate yourself in this and a lot of "other" things.rolleyes.gif
I also have Experience with all 3 units. 4 620's, 1x 920 and a H70. Does that make my opinion more valid then yours?
Lets make one thing clear, Certainly these closed water loops such as the 620, 920, H70, H80, and even the H100 are NEVER going to be a true "performance" cooler, they wont be as good as say a custom water Loop, Heck I bet even a Rasa would bit the crap out of the H100.
That Being said, for what its worth, the 620 is in no way disappointing, its FAR from disappointing. If the Kuhler is disappointing then the True and Megahalems are also Disappointing. The Stock Intel Cooler is Disappointing, the Kuhler 620 is its FAR from disappointing.
Define Disappointing for us..
How do you find the 620 "disappointing"?
- It performs as good as "most" high end tower air cooler heat sinks.
- It doesn't cost a lot of money
- It doesn't take as much space or puts as much strain on the motherboard as a tower cooler
- Able to keep the CPU reasonably cool for most moderate oc's
(which serves the need of most overclockers, just look at this topic.)
- It has the added benefit of being quite if not near silent.
This alone gives most of us air cooler users an option and reasons to move away to something like the 620/920 even if its a few Cs behind the best air cooler, the price and added benefits makes up for it. however if you want more "performance" you are welcome to get something bigger like the 920 or H100 or a true performance loop.
Dont expect miracles from the 620, but for what its worth its far from disappointing and very much gives pretty good performance,


So what part of that is disappointing to you ?

I don't know why you are so defensive... headscratch.gif

I also never said the H100, H80, or 920 were "true performance coolers" or that I found the Antec 620 to be "disappointing" so I don't know what you're talking about and going all bold on me for? Also, never said anything about expecting miracles from anything - and I think I stated a full custom loop was the only true "performance" liquid cooling option, assuming it's set up right.

Chill buddy, and thanks for the "education" I didn't need and for calling me arrogant - I love you too man. thumb.gif
Edited by FromUndaChz - 6/9/12 at 6:00pm
post #1953 of 6063
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Originally Posted by Krunchy View Post

Hey Birdman,
I've been reading about your issue, specifically, a rattle that appears to be located in the vicinity of the pump unit/CPU. You have changed out the Khuler four times, and yet the rattle still exists!
A few questions...

Hey Krunchy,

Thanks..I think I got a bad batch of Kuhlers. look...
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Originally Posted by Krunchy View Post

Q1: Have you had this rattle happen on different systems that use the Khuler, or have all four Khulers been installed only in one (the same) system?
Q1 Different Systems, then just on a PSU 3 pin to Molex Converter, Also Tried using a Fan controller.
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Originally Posted by Krunchy View Post

Q2: Have you gone around inside the case while the pump is mounted and running, and tried pressing down on various components and areas around the pump to see if they have any affect on the rattling noise?

Q2. Yes I have, mainly pressed the pump, didn't help.
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Originally Posted by Krunchy View Post

Q3: Have you tried re-mounting the (rattling) Khuler in a different case on a different mobo, to see if it rattles in that install?

Q3. Yes my friend and I tested everything we could think of. frown.gif
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Originally Posted by Krunchy View Post

Four bad units in a row just does not happen, unless the units are being drop-kicked (every time!) by UPS, or by your landlord/wife/roommate, or you are somehow (inadvertently) mishandling the unit each time you install it.

Or maybe Antec Screwed a large number of shipments? Shipments that were drop kicked, damaged on their way to the cargo load to or their way to the retailer wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Krunchy View Post

I suggest the problem is not defective units(!) from Antec, but rather is a problem with your CPU, motherboard, or case.
Certainly, these pumps produce at least a little vibration. But the majority of Khuler owners - by far, (and myself included) - have complained little or none about the chronic rattle you have. What I hypothesize is that the pump vibration is rattling the CPU itself, or the CPU chip ZIF socket on the motherboard, or components adjacent to the CPU, such as the VRM modules, the chokes, or the caps. Or, it is vibrating the whole motherboard and perhaps the khuler back-plate is touching the motherboard tray and rattling there, OR one or more mobo standoffs are loose on the motherboard tray (check for these!). It's even possible that your mobo has some sort of internal de-lamination between board layers and that is amplifying the vibration from the pump.

Take a few steps back and re-assess the situation. Assume the Khuler isn't bad; rather that, there is something about how the Khuler, the CPU, the mobo, or a component on the mobo is mounted such that they are vibrating and/or rattling against something. While you may have been pressing on components and areas around the pump to try to isolate the noise, I'm convinced something is not right in that area and more pressure may be needed or something has been overlooked.

But I think it is not you or UPS at fault, I think it is a defective mobo or physical mounting issue (a badly mounted or defective CPU ZIF socket, or a bad choke, or a bad NB/SB heatpipe-heatsink-mounting-cooling fan-whatever). I urge you to look for something like that, extremely closely, before suspecting the (fourth!) cooler of being defective...meanwhile, you have my sympathy. mellowsmiley.gif
Regards,
-Krunchy
NB: One last idea - did you use the foam tape to mount the backplate? If not, that's another suspect - the backplate might be vibrating against the mobo).
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Originally Posted by Krunchy View Post

I will assume for a minute that the answers to 1 and 3 above is No; that all have been installed in the same case and mobo, and not re-tried in a different host PC before returning the units.
While I have little doubt that you have been both diligent and thorough in your efforts to diagnose your 'rattle', I must say that your receiving a fourth bad unit in a row, is extremely unlikely and so far off the charts statistically-speaking that it really points to some other problem in your system.

I assure you, nothing is wrong with my and my friends systems. The pump is nothing too fancy or complex, as long as it gets the volts it should run. My friend has a Kuhler and I have a H70, both ran on my system silent. its most likely a bad batch of pumps. As you can see it even rattels outside the case on its own. The noise If there was something wrong with my pc then my friends 620 and my h70 would display similar issues. they dont display similar issues. I find it hard to believe a bad CPU, Motherboard would have anything to do with a rattling pump.

If you go a few posts back someone actually opened a Kuhler and found the problem to be a impeller shaft which was not balanced. frown.gif
Edited by TheBirdman74 - 6/9/12 at 6:01pm
post #1954 of 6063
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Originally Posted by Duff-Man View Post

Hi Antec Kuhler 620/920 members

I was wondering is it easy/possible to change the tubing on a 920? Also, if the tubing can be changed, can the wiring for the fan controllers be extended to allow me to put my 920 into different parts of my case?

Thanks in advance

Nahh..I dont think so, you cant bud, the only way is to cut the tubes off and that voids your warranty, however I can see how you can extend the Kuhlers Power Cable, Just get a Male 3Pin to Female 3 Pin Extension, You can even make one if you can do good soldiering, I can smile.gif
post #1955 of 6063
Greetings Fellow Overclockers, and Antec Kuhler fans. This is Mr. Hyde.biggrin.gif

I'll be Brief. Even tho I dont spend a lot of time infront of computers working with them has become a new hobby of mine and I have done a few projects of my own, every now and then I have also lurked OCN. Reason I joined the site was actually give something back to the community, specially the Antec Kuhler Users.

I have seen a lot of you who for aesthetics or for what ever reason wish to modify the Antec Kuhlers with Clear Tubing and Reservoirs and vice versa.

Well Dr.Bill and I(Mostly Dr. Bill) wrote a small guide showing a neat little trick on How to Take Apart / Disassemble / Remove the Antec Kuhler 620 and 920's Tubes Without Cutting the Tubes. We actually did this tutorial back in Early January this year as part of another fun little project. smile.gif


So for those of you who want it, here it is...

http://tomorrowsgaming.com/modding-workshop/4729.htm
- How to disassemble the Antec Kuhler h20 620 and 920 without cutting the tubes
Quote:
Hello Everyone, The Antec Kuhler's are becoming pretty popular and I have seen many hobbyists modding the Antec and similar units made by Asetek, But the first thing they do is cut the tubes. Today for the first time ever, I am going to quickly show you a little secret trick of how to disassemble the Antec Kuhler h20 620 and 920 unit's radiator and the pump cold plate combo without cutting the tubes.


I will try to post the Complete Guide In OCN Later for your Convenence.


All The Best and Happy Modding and Overclocking thumb.gif

Cheers,
Mr. Hyde
Edited by Dr Bill Mr Hyde - 6/9/12 at 8:14pm
post #1956 of 6063
Sweet... thanks for sharing..
post #1957 of 6063
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBirdman74 View Post

Nahh..I dont think so, you cant bud, the only way is to cut the tubes off and that voids your warranty, however I can see how you can extend the Kuhlers Power Cable, Just get a Male 3Pin to Female 3 Pin Extension, You can even make one if you can do good soldiering, I can smile.gif

Rest Assured, It can be done without having to cut the tubes. As for the Warranty I rather not speak on that.
There are alternatives to everything, my friend. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Duff-Man View Post

Hi Antec Kuhler 620/920 members

I was wondering is it easy/possible to change the tubing on a 920? Also, if the tubing can be changed, can the wiring for the fan controllers be extended to allow me to put my 920 into different parts of my case?

Thanks in advance

Its Very Easy and Very Do Able on Both the 620 and 920.
Just Read my above post and follow the link to the guide, will post the entire guide on OCN later on as well. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by zGunBLADEz View Post

Sweet... thanks for sharing..
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Edited by Dr Bill Mr Hyde - 6/9/12 at 8:40pm
post #1958 of 6063
How do I fit the 620 in a cm storm scout? Which fan do I need to replace to out the antec one and radiator in? Am I supposed to install it on the clear side panel? The only other place would be the top fan but that's 135mm. I need Help! Thanks!
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post #1959 of 6063
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How do I fit the 620 in a cm storm scout? Which fan do I need to replace to out the antec one and radiator in? Am I supposed to install it on the clear side panel? The only other place would be the top fan but that's 135mm. I need Help! Thanks!

you should be able to just install it anywhere there is a space for a 120mm fan, how about the rear fan? why dont you install the 620 with the stock one in push pull.?
post #1960 of 6063
anybody tried joining two pumps together? ie 247
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