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post #2581 of 6063
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Originally Posted by stickg1 View Post

I have an AMD FX chip though. It's like comparing apples to oranges. If my chip gets over 70c my PC will shut off to protect it. AMD recommends staying under 61c to ensure longevity of your chip. It's very different from an Intel Ivy Bridge.

ah didn't know u were on AMD lol
post #2582 of 6063
Yeah AMD chips generally run cooler than Intel ones.
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I don't think they actually run cooler... I wish I had a link to the datasheet. Mezmenir explained it once.
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62C refers to CPU package temp, aka TCase (TMPIN#). Not core. Visit AMD datasheets references.
No, TMPIN# isn't actually a sensor on the board, it's another estimated temperature based on your junction. Core tempertaure calculation is a little bit different, but in reality, your cores are always 8-20C higher than your TCase. Hence throttling kicks in sometimes at 77-80C TCase.
No, running over a value of 62C Tcase won't hurt the CPU dramatically, YMMV of course, this is probably chip specific. I've let mine get up to 70ish. At which point the cores are roughly 85.
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I wasn't comparing "per-processor", more like- talking about how running outside the blanket of it's rated temperature hasn't hurt it. FX can take a lot more heat, yes.
"CPU Socket" is Tcase (there is no socket sensor), and yeah, that's what gets up to 70. When my TCase is 70 (give or take), the cores "display" 55-60, but in reality, they are more like 80+, easy. It is physically impossible to have a core temperature lower than Tcase, and the "core" temperature isn't calibrated for absolute reads, but merely only good for delta. AMD hasn't realeased any information to make it any more useful at all, though newer version of AOD seem to read it differently, YMMV.
I used to be a strong believer in the 62C core temp thing too- but. Yeah. It's not right, because of physics. The cores are rated to take much, much higher heat than Tcase, but the "CPU package" as a whole, is only rated for X value. (62.5 for example).
(It was more meant for "TMan", in the post above).
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62C refers to CPU package temp, aka TCase (TMPIN#). Not core. Visit AMD datasheets references.
No, TMPIN# isn't actually a sensor on the board, it's another estimated temperature based on your junction. Core tempertaure calculation is a little bit different, but in reality, your cores are always 8-20C higher than your TCase. Hence throttling kicks in sometimes at 77-80C TCase.
No, running over a value of 62C Tcase won't hurt the CPU dramatically, YMMV of course, this is probably chip specific. I've let mine get up to 70ish. At which point the cores are roughly 85.

Always thought socket temp was actual mobo sensor hmm oh well. So in reality your actual core is around intel temps.
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post #2584 of 6063
Socket temp (TEMPIN1)
on my gigabyte board was the same in the software as a probe I had attached to the back of my motherboard for the fan controller.


AMD just says to keep the core temps below 62C.
Iv got up to 63C on some of my chips but they always fail the next pass of prime or IBT once they touch 62 or higher.
Also core temp isnt accurate until you have load on the cpu.

Socket temp on most boards you should keep under 70C or it will throttle the chip or turn it off.
If you dont have a fan on VRM and rear of your motherboard this temp can get out of control and be 15-20C higher then core temp.
Since the antec water units dont provide any cooling for those areas compared to the stock head sink.
With a fan in those two places my socket temp and core temps with in 2-3C of each other. For the first 10mins of pime core temps higher.
Around 15mins they are the same and from there on socket temp takes over.
post #2585 of 6063
Lapped my 920 last night and brought my temps down conciderably. My unit came with a somewhat convex coldplate and I could see it wasn't making very good contact with the edges of the cpu. Also replaced the PK-3 with some Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra. I had to use a LOT of the PK-3 for it to spread evenly. With the Liquid Ultra it was a simple even application with the included brush. After lapping i've seen temps drop in some places as much as ~10c.
post #2586 of 6063
Well unfortunately you can't say the lapping itself contributed to a ~10c drop. You switched from one TIM to another (a very different and high performing TIM at that) and said yourself you applied a large amount of it which in itself can cause bad temps.
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post #2587 of 6063
Does the fan necessarily have to be plugged into the pumps header? Could I connect the fan to my fan controller and control it from there? Anyone know the max rpms of the fan on the 620?

Also, would it be find to plug the pump into the cpu-fan header and in the bios have the cpu fan setting set to 100% all the time? That should give it the 12v that it needs right?

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post #2588 of 6063
You can plug the fan into anything you want. My two cougar fans in p/p are connected to my new fan controller. The pump can also be connected to anything you want but, it needs 12v at all times.

Here is the 620 fan specs:

Bearing Type: Sleeve

Rated Volt: 12.0V

Rated Speed: 2,000rpm +/-10%

Max. Air Flow: 81.32 CFM

Max. Static Air Pressure: 3.394 mm-H2O

Noise Level: 27.36 dBA (Max.)
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Has any one made or come across a mode to make the LED in the 920 pump cycle though the colours automatically?
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Has any one made or come across a mode to make the LED in the 920 pump cycle though the colours automatically?

Now that would be cool....
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