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So the benefit would be the 470 is slightly more powerful but since it's older it generates more heat, and the 560 would be slightly less powerful but it has better cooling since it's a new design and could be OC'd more ?

Asking because I'm wondering.
they both essentially are the same performance wise, but how they did it is different.

560 TI has 384 cores at 822 mhz, 470 has 448 cores at 602 mhz, and they both cancel each other out with cores or clocks.
     
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For anyone who doesn't like fraps, Afterburner has an onscreen fps display while running 3D clocks. Just need to enable it.
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It technically is I find it a bit of a high guess on your part that you're pulling those kind of frame rates at 1920x1080 with AA on a weaker video card when I couldn't minus AA and at lower settings at a lower resolution, PLUS that lower resolution was a narrower aspect ratio and FOV, and wider FOV in this game just kills performance.

If it looks good, then that's all that matters. However, test it and you'll probably see you're overestimating how many frames you're really getting.
I played 17 matches today with MSI Afterburner on and temps/framerate enabled on the OSD.

To my amazement, in my previous comment.. I understated the average framerate I was getting. I played all but 1 map, and I still can't remember any of their names. All of those matches I played I purposely ran around firing and getting close to people and just trying to bog down performance as much as possible, so needless to say people thought I had down syndrome, but, I'm not worried.

I almost never went below 44 frames, I once went down to 38 on that map with a broken plane on it in the middle of the fire with 3 people huddled up but it was only for a second. Most other times I averaged above 44 and occasionally broke 50 and even reached 60, but the 50+ weren't in the middle of the map with lots of people running around, it was in small rooms all alone.

I have the odd ability to usually guess within 6 frames what the game is running at if it lasts a few seconds and only if it's between 30-45. It's hard to explain but I just can.


Though, if I'm in the middle of smoke, performance is diminished so significantly I have to turn away.

To clarify, I'm running @ 1920x1080, 2x AA, Vsync On, everything else maxed. Anisotropic isn't on in the game *no option* and not in my drivers either.

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Edited by Ascii Aficionado - 4/17/11 at 7:01pm
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^ you will be very happy when your 560 arrives. I went from a gtx260, to a gtx460 for one day, returned it and got the 560ti. During all that I was mostly playing dirt 2, so I ran the built-in bench. With the 260 I got low 30fps. With the 460 I was getting mid 60's. Now with the 560 I peak over 90fps.

For the money it is an awesome card. There are better, but they also cost twice as much.


If you have any questions feel free to ask, I'm more than welcome to help. A lot of my questions have been answered here, all I can do is pass on the assistance.
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^ you will be very happy when your 560 arrives. I went from a gtx260, to a gtx460 for one day, returned it and got the 560ti. During all that I was mostly playing dirt 2, so I ran the built-in bench. With the 260 I got low 30fps. With the 460 I was getting mid 60's. Now with the 560 I peak over 90fps.

For the money it is an awesome card. There are better, but they also cost twice as much.


If you have any questions feel free to ask, I'm more than welcome to help. A lot of my questions have been answered here, all I can do is pass on the assistance.
Why'd you return the 460 ?
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Why'd you return the 460 ?
There wasn't actually anything wrong with it. But after using it for that evening and reading a little more in benchmarks, I figured I would rather spend a little more and do I right the first time(within my budget). I was actually going to the store thinking I might get either a gtx470 or ati on the same level, the 6870, I think.


One of the reasons I decided on the msi card was purely for its looks. The cooler on it is very nice, and is probably something that would cost $30-50 as an upgrade to any other card. So I figured what the hell. Frys return policy is so lenient that if the card want good, I could bring it back. Turns out, the 560 is an awesome card. And one day I hope to get a new psu and sli.
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There wasn't actually anything wrong with it. But after using it for that evening and reading a little more in benchmarks, I figured I would rather spend a little more and do I right the first time(within my budget). I was actually going to the store thinking I might get either a gtx470 or ati on the same level, the 6870, I think.


One of the reasons I decided on the msi card was purely for its looks. The cooler on it is very nice, and is probably something that would cost $30-50 as an upgrade to any other card. So I figured what the hell. Frys return policy is so lenient that if the card want good, I could bring it back. Turns out, the 560 is an awesome card. And one day I hope to get a new psu and sli.
Hawk TF3 is out so I'm getting that instead since it's only $15 more.

Do you think my proc will be a bottleneck for the 560 ? I doubt it will be for quadcore games, but I think it will be for dual core based games, but I have no idea, just speculation.
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Hawk TF3 is out so I'm getting that instead since it's only $15 more.

Do you think my proc will be a bottleneck for the 560 ? I doubt it will be for quadcore games, but I think it will be for dual core based games, but I have no idea, just speculation.
If there are games that only use 2 cores, maybe. I'm actually learning about bottlenecks here myself. Basically, while playing a game, if your gpu usage is at 99%, then most likely there isn't a CPU bottleneck.

My phenom x4 wasn't a BN, I doubt yours would be either. But if ever plan on sli, like I hope to one day, you'll want to invest in a new CPU. When that day comes, I happen to know someone with a x4 945
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If there are games that only use 2 cores, maybe. I'm actually learning about bottlenecks here myself. Basically, while playing a game, if your gpu usage is at 99%, then most likely there isn't a CPU bottleneck.

My phenom x4 wasn't a BN, I doubt yours would be either. But if ever plan on sli, like I hope to one day, you'll want to invest in a new CPU. When that day comes, I happen to know someone with a x4 945
That's literally/exactly what I was thinking as well. Though, I realize we have to take into account if a game is CPU or GPU dependent as well. But, since we're talking about performance based on hardware relative only to an individuals combination of hardware then, perhaps not, I guess.

I see evidence that I subconsciously already understood the logic of the GPU reaching full load proving there's no bottleneck in that instance as I had been noticing that in the games I've been playing recently, but, I haven't consciously thought about it in detail. In other news, MSI Afterburners OSD is my favorite new tool.

Also, I was contemplating maxing out the proc for this mobo. Hre's a list of compatablie procs with my mobo. But, this mobo isn't capable of SLI so I'd get a new proc/mobo eventually, or just a new proc, not sure.



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Edited by Ascii Aficionado - 4/20/11 at 3:00pm
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You should be fine. If you decide to keep your board, it's compatible with all cpu's including the hexacores.
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