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oh and im running one monitor 23' at 1900x1080 and dont plan on ever running anything above that,would the 2gb be a waste for me? and ive read really bad reveiws about the xfx 6950 1gb,which sucks bc its on sale so which is best his,xfx,saphiare,,,,never used amd card so are there drivers really that bad compared to nvidias
I couldn't definitively say; it could go either way. Might want to make a separate post and get some more specific advice. I have seen your findings, though. The XFX 6950 non-ref cards don't seem to be all that stellar.
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6950 Power Color PCS++ comes with the 6970 BIOS and shaders unlocked.
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ya i read they lock up and crash,i think im gonna go with the referance His 2gb for the unlock ability,thanks...but i gota stop hi jacking this thread lol
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6950 Power Color PCS++ comes with the 6970 BIOS and shaders unlocked.
Yes but the cooler and overclockability are very bad compared to the Twin Frozr III.

Also the PCS++ does not have a voltage controller.
And almost no owners have reported 1 GHZ achievements.

It is a gamble with the 6950.

In my oppinion the Twin Frozr III is the best because
.)best overclockability
.)special voltage controller
.)best cooler
.)90% unlockability because almost no cards have been laser cut

Then there is the ASUS DCUII which claims second place because:
.)very good overclockability
.)also specially designed voltage controller
.)second best cooler
.)no unlockability

Number three the PCS ++
.)fair overclockability
.)no voltage controller
.)third best cooler
.)100% unlockability + full 6970 BIOS with warranty !! (factory unlocked + 6970 BIOS)

Then the reference cards with
.)average overclockability (some better/some worse)
.)some have voltage controllers some don´t
.)bad coolers
.)99% unlockability

That is my analogy of the matter
If a card unlocks or not does not depend on the cards ability rather than if the product has been laser cut to make it impossible for software measures to unlock the unfunctional units.
So there is no guarantee whatsoever a card will unlock...it all depends on what branch of card you have bought.
The newer ones have a higher probability rate of having been laser cut than the older ones.
So only the PCS++ ensures the unlock since is already factory unlocked + 6970 BIOS and warranty so you can be certain the full unlock + flash will be stable ..but the negative side is that this inhibits the overclock from reaching its peak and even more the card does not have a voltage controller I believe which makes overlocking it even more difficult.

So choose your favourite
Edited by Kung Pow - 4/14/11 at 6:01am
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Yes but the cooler and overclockability are very bad compared to the Twin Frozr III.

Also the PCS++ does not have a voltage controller.
And almost no owners have reported 1 GHZ achievements.

It is a gamble with the 6950.
That's not the point. If he wanted insane overclocks OP would've invested in aftermarket cooling or another card. PCS++ guaranteed unlock, which makes it no gamble.

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In my oppinion the Twin Frozr III is the best because
.)best overclockability
.)special voltage controller
.)best cooler
.)90% unlockability because almost no cards have been laser cut

Then there is the ASUS DCUII which claims second place because:
.)very good overclockability
.)also specially designed voltage controller
.)second best cooler
.)no unlockability

Number three the PCS ++
.)fair overclockability
.)no voltage controller
.)third best cooler
.)100% unlockability + full 6970 BIOS with warranty !! (factory unlocked + 6970 BIOS)

Then the reference cards with
.)average overclockability (some better/some worse)
.)some have voltage controllers some don´t
.)bad coolers
.)99% unlockability
Reference coolers aren't bad. You can get to 6970 speeds and still have room for some extra.

DirectCU is a 3 slot card, which is not ideal for everyone and no unlock. I'd put reference above this one.
Edited by Stefy - 4/14/11 at 6:14am
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PCS++ guaranteed unlock, which makes it no gamble.
That is not entirely true.
The PCS++ has a 6970 BIOS installed yes, but they still do not intend people of flashing it rather than to just have people test it.
They clearly state that they strongly discourage people from flashing to the 6970 BIOS and if done so the warranty will voided , since AMD is fully against it.

Check out my thread further information can be found here:http://www.overclock.net/amd-ati/990...l-stopped.html
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That is not entirely true.
The PCS++ has a 6970 BIOS installed yes, but they still do not intend people of flashing it rather than to just have people test it.
They clearly state that they strongly discourage people from flashing to the 6970 BIOS and if done so the warranty will voided , since AMD is fully against it.

Check out my thread further information can be found here:http://www.overclock.net/amd-ati/990...l-stopped.html
That is AMD and got nothing to do with the PowerColor card as it is a custom PCB. As long as PowerColor keeps advertising their card with this future, you've got nothing to worry about.
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That is AMD and got nothing to do with the PowerColor card as it is a custom PCB. As long as PowerColor keeps advertising their card with this future, you've got nothing to worry about.
Where do you think Power Color gets the 6950 from?
Power Color is just a Distributor ...AMD is the manufacturer of the card...and if they do not want their product to be unlocked Power Color will have some law suits on their cheeks if they intentionally put 6970 BIOS on the 6950.

That is the problem with PCS ++ right now.
They were informed to stop providing the 6950 with 6970 BIOS after they had already done it.

That is why they still void the warranty if you flash to the second BIOS they 6970 BIOS is on.
They just put it there for "testing" so they claim....after AMD has made it clear they do not want customers do flash their card as it will lead to mailfunction.

So don´t be fooled ...PCS++ is not shader unlocked and only has the 6970 BIOS there for testing!
If you flash or unlock the card the warranty will still be voided like with all the otehr 6950 distributors.
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Where do you think Power Color gets the 6950 from?
Power Color is just a Distributor ...AMD is the manufacturer of the card...and if they do not want their product to be unlocked Power Color will have some law suits on their cheeks if they intentionally put 6970 BIOS on the 6950.

That is the problem with PCS ++ right now.
They were informed to stop providing the 6950 with 6970 BIOS after they had already done it.

That is why they still void the warranty if you flash to the second BIOS they 6970 BIOS is on.
They just put it there for "testing" so they claim....after AMD has made it clear they do not want customers do flash their card as it will lead to mailfunction.

So don´t be fooled ...PCS++ is not shader unlocked and only has the 6970 BIOS there for testing!
If you flash or unlock the card the warranty will still be voided like with all the otehr 6950 distributors.
Wrong. AMD is not the ones making non ref models.

You also seem to think PowerColor cards get RMA'ed to AMD, this is false.

I'll repeat : AMD got nothing to do with PowerColor when it comes to custom PCBs. If your card dies, PowerColor will take care of it, not AMD. AMD can tell them to stop producing these cards, but they have nothing to do with the production/warranty.
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Well I am going to take my PC back to Frys on sat since one of the fans isnt working in the case and the 3Dmark11 test I ran last night said something about the video card drivers not being recognized and they are up to date for sure. The score was really really low, like below 5000. I am going ot most likely just swap the 6950 out for 6970 and be done with it but I am not sure if I will run into the same issue with the 6970 when it comes to putting a water block on it late for when I run 2 6970's. Frys has a 6950 Twin Frozer that I guess will work for unlocking but I am still unsure that I can find a water block for it.
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