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If you are doing 4.05GHz at under 1.3v (Load volts) that is very good. It is the Load volts you must look at.

The trouble with VTT on Quads begins at about 450FSB and up. In your case that is 1800QDR.

If you wanna lower VTT at those FSB speeds you will have to play with those GTL refs.
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If you are doing 4.05GHz at under 1.3v (Load volts) that is very good. It is the Load volts you must look at.

The trouble with VTT on Quads begins at about 450FSB and up. In your case that is 1800QDR.

If you wanna lower VTT at those FSB speeds you will have to play with those GTL refs.
So are you saying 449 fsb is alot easier than 450 fsb?

And also when you say load volts, what exactly do you mean?

I am getting 4.05 ghz after i put vcore to 1.43 bios (1800 qdr), but according to adia64 ,with vdroop, the actual voltage is 1.32v vcore, vtt is at 1.4v , any less it crashes p95.

Thats all I meant.
Edited by bloomstomb - 4/16/11 at 8:50am
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post #53 of 59
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So are you saying 449 fsb is alot easier than 450 fsb?

And also when you say load volts, what exactly do you mean?

I am getting 4.05 ghz after i put vcore to 1.43 bios (1800 qdr), but according to adia64 ,with vdroop, the actual voltage is 1.32v vcore, vtt is at 1.4v , any less it crashes p95.

Thats all I meant.
There should be no big difference between 449 and 450FSB. I'm saying that when overclocking 775 Quads, that past 450FSB - 460FSB is when most people have to play with the Ref GTL's in order to be stable. A good way to test FSB stability is to run Prime95 Large FFT's for 6 hours +.

Run small FFT's and look in CPU-z at your V-core. Load volts are the V-core under Load. So when people say, do not go over 1.4 V-core you should look at your Load V-core. What you set in bios is not very important, but the actual Voltage under Load is the one you should look at.

And 1.32v Load is perfectly normal for a Q9650 when at 4GHz +. Most of these needs this kind of load V-core at those speeds.
    
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There should be no big difference between 449 and 450FSB. I'm saying that when overclocking 775 Quads, that past 450FSB - 460FSB is when most people have to play with the Ref GTL's in order to be stable. A good way to test FSB stability is to run Prime95 Large FFT's for 6 hours +.

Run small FFT's and look in CPU-z at your V-core. Load volts are the V-core under Load. So when people say, do not go over 1.4 V-core you should look at your Load V-core. What you set in bios is not very important, but the actual Voltage under Load is the one you should look at.

And 1.32v Load is perfectly normal for a Q9650 when at 4GHz +. Most of these needs this kind of load V-core at those speeds.
1.32v in bios? Or with vdroop?

TBH with you its just not worth it. I understand why people stick to around 1700 with these boards
. Theres a very large price to pay for just 100 more fsb.
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Im not sure my tjmax, but I have heard the 780is normaly run hotter.

I have a pretty good case (pcp80) with alot of airflow. I also have a clipon fan blowing directly on the aluminum cooler that came with the mobo.

It does get hot thoe.
Mine's usually around 60C after gaming for awhile. It's stable but a lot of people say that high OCs become unstable when it goes above 55C. I can't seem to ever be stable above 4Ghz anyways on my CO QX9650 so 60C is fine for me.
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1.32v in bios? Or with vdroop?

TBH with you its just not worth it. I understand why people stick to around 1700 with these boards
. Theres a very large price to pay for just 100 more fsb.
With Vdroop.
    
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With Vdroop.
yes thats what I thought.

Im just curious tho, do you think if I could lower Core voltage and chose without vdroop, and get 1.32 v at load (through aida64 real voltage) , would I lose heat?

Because I was really pushing the heat envelope on this cpu at those voltages, as high as 69c.
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yes thats what I thought.

Im just curious tho, do you think if I could lower Core voltage and chose without vdroop, and get 1.32 v at load (through aida64 real voltage) , would I lose heat?

Because I was really pushing the heat envelope on this cpu at those voltages, as high as 69c.
If you use Load Line Calibration your idle volts will be lower. But you will still get the same heat from load.
    
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If you use Load Line Calibration your idle volts will be lower. But you will still get the same heat from load.
That makes sense, since vdroop is not as noticable when not at full load.

Ive got my stable 3825 mhz build ready to go almost. This latest voltages passed 4 hour p95 small ftt, with temps sub 60s.
Ill run a overnight blend test next.

With vdroop
cpu core 1.3625
cpu fsb 1.175
memory 2.1
spp 1.45
mcp 1.5
sp-mcp 1.2

4 gigs of ram, unlinked at 800 mhz.
Next step, I will be adding another 4 gigs of ram and stabilizing those guys at increased MHZ.

Thanks for all your help so far.
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