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If it isn't more powerful then the other consoles....then just get out Nintendo. We don't need your consoles anymore.

The N64 was amazing...it was top notch. Make another N64 quality system!
Don't be a graphics whore. Graphics don't make a game.
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I don't think anyone is saying that the graphics will make the console flop. Where you saw that I don't know.

It's going to flop unless it has actual games.
Okay...

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That's Awesome. The ONLY thing the Wii needed to win was graphics. GAME OVER, PS3 and XBOX360.
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If it isn't more powerful then the other consoles....then just get out Nintendo.
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The N64 was a pile that managed thanks to the incredible first party games and heavy doses of smooth shading away the system's lack of horsepower.
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if the next console is a generation behind i will rage again.

plz have PS4/X720/grafix plz.
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Terrible idea, I'll be extremely disappointed in Nintendo if they go ahead with this. There's no way they'll be able to pack enough power into the new console to stay relevant when the next Xbox and PlayStation release.

Seeing as power and graphics seem to trump just about anything else these days, they're setting themselves up yet again for disappointing third-party support.
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What's the point of this? By the time the ps4 and xbox720(?) release this new console will be generations behind, AGAIN.
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I agree but at the same time it was missing a key graphical component: HD
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If they cant pack in more power than the 6 year old Xbox 360 then they really weren't trying.
Yep, nobody said anything.

But the fact remains anyway. The Wii has outsold the PS3 and the 360, even if it doesn't have the best game library. Yes that has slowed down a little, but I'm sure that's why they are going to introduce something new.
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So they're going to re-release the same six games then?
    
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Hell yeah!! i was addicted to that .. n64 was so awsome at the time .

Theres nothing awsome at this present time for consoles .
ive never enjoyed any games more than 4 player mario kart and goldeneye.
i remember after school, we all used to flock to the neighbours house who had a 64 and a "big" 60cm tv. sit there until dinner time, then go home.
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Pff... consoles. Nintendo is taking baby steps, maybe it'll only be 720p.

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That's Awesome. The ONLY thing the Wii needed to win was graphics. GAME OVER, PS3 and XBOX360.
Lol.
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Nintendo isn't competing with Sony and Microsoft so the Wii 2 can still be more powerful than current HD consoles and still be a low powered box even with current hardware(Which likely isn't finalized). Think of something along the lines of a next-gen Zacate or Llano.

The problem with this outlook is that Microsoft and Sony will just leap-frog Nintendo in terms of tech when they launch their new consoles sometime after 2012. Again, this is not a problem since Nintendo isn't competing directly with Sony and Microsoft. The Wii 2 will be powerful enough to get more of next-gens ports at a lower quality than the other two next-gen boxes unlike the current Wii where most of the big third-party blockbusters are absent on the console.

This allows Nintendo to make a low-cost, low-powered box and recapture some of the core audience yet still produce a box cheap enough that won't put off the amass of casuals.

My predictions for Microsoft: Microsoft will support the 360 for an extended period like they claim but will launch a next-gen console exclusively for their core audience yet designate the 360 as its "casual" box that exclusively supports Kinect. An AMD/ATI CPU and GPU combo is pretty much a given, likely utilizing a next-generation Fusion chip(Bulldozer) with several hundred stream cores(AMD plans to redesign their core logic, so I'm expecting their stream cores to be more powerful similar to Nvidia's where each CUDA core is a 16-way VLIW as opposed to a 5-way VLIW for ATI's stream processor. That's why Nvidia has "only" 512 compared to ATI's 1600 per core).

My predictions for Sony: Cell processor development started over ten years ago with nearly half a billion dollars invested into it's design, so I'm certain that we'll see some variant of Cell in the Playstation 4 albeit with a greater inference on general purpose processing w/more general purpose cores. Furthermore Sony has spent five years developing tools and techniques called "Edge" tools to try and levy the esoteric hardware inside the Playstation 3. With over ten years and billions of dollars already invested into the Playstation 3, it would be ludicrous to think Sony would abandon it so soon.
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Notice how the Wii has reached the end of it's life? Heck, it did awhile ago actually. The only people still buying Wiis are the ones who just never got a chance to before. The "omg" factor of the Wii died out fast. The only reason the Wii sold remotely good as it did was because Nintendo has good marketing and plenty of tricks. They managed to bottleneck supply in relation to the massive demand of it, making it the "hot" item to buy. People would buy Wiis by the 3s in stores because they were so in demand and talked about.
Why did people buy the Wii like crazy?
1)Instead of good graphics, the Wii had motion controls. At the time, that was amazing and new to the consumers and it was hot! You had to have it.
2)Nintendo kept production down. The Wii had stupidly cheap and common hardware in it. There was no reason for Nintendo not to be able to keep up in production. Microsoft and Sony, even with their pretty "advanced" consoles (more so Sony because of Bluray being new), was able to keep up with production fairly well. But not Nintendo? You would think the exact opposite. The item that "can't" be found anywhere else sells 20x better than the item that can be bought just about anywhere. Nintendo pulled this stunt twice: Wii Fit. You couldn't get one of those things anywhere without seeing a mob. The second Best Buy put down a stack of them, it was a free-for-all. I was there to witness it once first hand, and that was almost 3 weeks after the damn thing had come out. 3 weeks. The stack of like 40 was obliterated almost 4 minutes after it hit the floor. "Sold out".
3)Nintendo was able to appeal to a broad spectrum of consumers. Young, older, oldest. Their technology, as completely dated and arguable lame, was fascinating to the untaught masses. Then their games, as stupid as alot of them were, was tooled to just about every demographic out there. On the Wii, you can find a game for anyone of any age. Generic games is the Wii's middle and last name.

At this point, graphics doesn't matter to the masses and sales has is completely unaffected by it. Graphics do indeed matter to an extent to consumers, but the Wii had "so much more" going for it - no one cared. And the younglings or the old people don't compare between SD and HD to begin with. Add in tech stupid people, and it's all irrelevant to sales. Heck, I'm willing to bet there are ALOT of PS3s and Xbox 360s owned by families that are connected with analog Yellow/White/Red wires especially considering that's all they come with.

This "document" (lol) leads me to my point about no one saying that graphics will make this flop like originally inquired. Assuming Nintendo has some kind of new "WOW" and "OMG" factor to feed off the masses with like the motion tracking Wii and the glasses free 3DS..... then graphics is irrelevant to sales. But, graphics is still a major factor to most people at the same time. Consumers bought the Wiis by the truck loads, but end up with truck loads of Wiis covered by dust because they never get used because in the end - the "WOW" factor dies out quick thanks to lack of content, graphics, and so on. The lasting appeal of a product is what makes the difference.
Quite a rant there. I agree with points 1 and 3 about why the Wii was successful. Point 2 is speculative conspiracy theory talk.

Pretty much what you are saying is that if the console doesn't have a "WOW" factor or lots of interesting content than it will fail compared to the next gen consoles which will ultimately have superior graphics because of the continuous trend in technology. That's a pretty obvious statement which wasn't really revealed in it's entirety until now. Before it sounded more like graphics was the only factor for it's possible failure. I can see now you were making the assumption that, based on past performance, Nintendo won't be able to provide another "WOW" factor or interesting content. That Nintendo won't try to better themselves and just let themselves be left behind. I don't think the gaming giant will allow that to happen, but then again I've seen other giants fall.

You said it yourself in other threads that the graphics of consoles like the 360 are pretty much "good enough" to the point where the leap in cost to the PC isn't worth it for most consumers. I think that as the jumps in graphical quality continue to diminish, the only differentiating advantages each console will have is that "WOW" factor or the content.

Not at anyone really:
I guess a lot of fans of Nintendo are pissed because they went mainstream. Whenever something goes mainstream the content gets "dumbed down" and the quality drops as well. This is pretty much expected of anything popular, mainstream is where the money is. People blame companies for having corporate greed when in reality it's the same greed you or I have.

Companies have profit margins. There is no law stating how large your profit margin can be, only competition can drive that factor down. If you make your profit margin large and the product is still selling like hotcakes than who is to argue. If you say it's an ethical dilemma then no company should be making profit in the first place.
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I agree with this.

But if Nintendo was to actually stop giving out licenses for crappy games I might actually play the wii, I only like it for party games like just dance
So you want them to stop giving out licenses for crappy games, and the only thing you play is one of the biggest steaming piles of manure on the system???

I hope to god my sarcasm detector is broke.
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This thread is full of so much arrogance.

Listen, Nintendo holds forty-five percent of the market right now - just relating to home consoles. Honestly, they are winning the console wars right now. Neither Microsoft nor Sony have reached that level. Simply put, they are doing exactly what nearly every for-profit business is out to do: make money.

I love Nintendo for being Nintendo, but I also like Microsoft and Sony's games. I like some of Nintendo's games (SSBB, Mario Strikers Charged and Pokemon Battle Revolutions all got a lot of play time out of me) and I like some of the other company's games too.

It's not about who makes a better system. It's about who makes more money. If companies cease to be profitable, they will crumble under deficit, or no upward growth. Something to consider too is that Nintendo has a huge advantage in the income making field: the DS. That console makes so much money that they can literally pool their capital together and make anything amazing -- if they choose to.

I'm not going to speak on their direction, other than we aren't playing side-scrolling Mario anymore, and time goes on. I'm happy though we have the option to play older games, and play new fun games that try to be similar, like New Super Mario Brothers.

;D
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amazing how much i dont care. so done with nintendo. unless they REALLY knock my socks off i'm not gonna buy it and get ripped off just like with the wii.
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