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i will never understand the whole "games dont use more than 2 threads" argument. People act like there isnt other task/applications running in the background while gaming. windows, anti virus, torrents, and whatever junk might be running.

While it might be true that most games dont use more than two cores, i garuntee you those same games run better on a quad then they do on a dual.

also the performance loss for games with ht on is so small i doubt anyone would notice a difference. especially if your fps is 50+ anyway.
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HT off on a 2600K is a waste considering a 2500K is cheaper. HT on!
Exactly the reason why I went with the 2500k. I've no use for HT, and neither do games.
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I thought games didn't really benefit from HT?
If a game doesn't benefit from HT, it isn't CPU bound anyway so it doesn't matter. It's the games that do benefit from it where it becomes important.
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There are only a few games that benefit from HT past 4 cores and none of them won't be pushing 160+ fps on a i5 with enough GPU power before more cpu power would matter.

CPU bound or not it has nothing to do with it. A game can only use so many threads, once you max those threads out you're cpu bottlenecked and having more cores or ht on won't improve that situation.

Most background applications aren't resource hogs, when was the last time any of you needed to use a game booster software because your cpu was struggling to multi-task?
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There are only a few games that benefit from HT past 4 cores and none of them won't be pushing 160+ fps on a i5 with enough GPU power before more cpu power would matter.

CPU bound or not it has nothing to do with it. A game can only use so many threads, once you max those threads out you're cpu bottlenecked and having more cores or ht on won't improve that situation.
In which case, why not leave HT enabled so that applications where it does matter significantly (winrar for instance) run faster?
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Only for the fact that it takes less volts to run the same clocks.

HT is what a 20% performance boost when something fully supports it? Unless you're unzipping huge 20GB+ files we're talking a matter of seconds.
    
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post #27 of 37
If that's the argument, the OP should sell his 2600K and buy a 2500K. Assuming he can get a good price on the former of course...and he's willing to lose the potential of using HT later on.
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post #28 of 37
I wouldn't go that far...

He could benefit from it in the future. You never know what will happen when the next gen consoles come out, maybe we'll get some better cpu threading support.

That said he'd probably lose a bit on the sale and it would become a question of is a possibly better binned cpu (i7) being worth $60 more than a i5 with 2mb less cache with no potential to unlock in the future.
    
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I'd recommend keeping HT off, bearing in mind that the extra GHz will work for ALL APPLICATIONS, not just the ones that are taking advantage of the POSSIBILITY of the HT threads. Plus, it'll free up some idle processes, leading for the possibility, and more than likely, of using the remaining threads for something else.
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post #30 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
Only for the fact that it takes less volts to run the same clocks.

HT is what a 20% performance boost when something fully supports it? Unless you're unzipping huge 20GB+ files we're talking a matter of seconds.
It's still faster. And performance wise, HT is WAY more efficient (power usage) than overclocking is. So if performance/watt or keeping voltages low was important to OP, I'm assuming he wouldn't be posting in a thread about his 5ghz overclock.
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