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Anyone got a SA SB-E Extreme yet? I'm looking to buy a TR air cooler but don't know whether I should get the SB-E regular or the SB-E extreme. Guess the noise level turns me off. But can you lower it? Sorry have no experience with air coolers.
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Would anyone assume any thermal deficiencies by using tap on the edges of the two towers?

My only concern would be how well the tape would stick after the repeated hot and cool cycles of using the system. You could have a loose piece of tape flapping around in there! eek.gif
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Cheers for the reply. Can you elaborate on the Noctua comment for me?
I had it spare and assumed, perhaps wrongly, that it would be better at exhausting the air than the stock Corsair fan. Are you suggesting I replace the Noctua with something else? Any recommendations?

The CFM of the Noctua is no where near that of the TY-140s. You have air being recirculated inside the case and lowering the effectiveness of the SA. I would suggest you consider the following to improve airflow, temps and noise:

1. Remove the rear grill mesh with a nibbler tool. Check out the Nibbler Club item in my sig for more details. With the rear grill gone you will gain a notably higher amount of air blowing out the rear of the case. You may not even need a fan there if you're happy with your temps. That was the case for me as I like a quieter PC.

2. Whether the rear grill is removed or not you should look into replacing the rear exhaust fan. That is, if you intend to still use a rear exhaust fan. There are a ton of choices here. I've become a recent fan of both Bitfenix Spectre Pro (140+ 200mm) and Phanteks (140mm). A lot of folks in the 650D thread really like the Bitfenix fans. thumb.gif

If you run the fans on the SA at 100% the above changes will help lower your temps. If you are going for a more quiet setup definitely look into removing the rear grill. The Noctua would be able to more effectively handle the lower volume or air trying to escape the case. The Positive Airflow Cooling item in my sig may also be helpful. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by skyisover View Post

Anyone got a SA SB-E Extreme yet? I'm looking to buy a TR air cooler but don't know whether I should get the SB-E regular or the SB-E extreme. Guess the noise level turns me off. But can you lower it? Sorry have no experience with air coolers.

If you never want to hear how noisy 140mm fans spinning at 2500 RPM are then definitely get the SB-E. The TY-141 and TY-150 more tons of air and are not noisy at all. thumb.gif
Edited by solsamurai - 7/23/12 at 3:27pm
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post #2233 of 3854
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My only concern would be how well the tape would stick after the repeated hot and cool cycles of using the system. You could have a loose piece of tape flapping around in there! eek.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
The CFM of the Noctua is no where near that of the TY-140s. You have air being recirculated inside the case and lowering the effectiveness of the SA. I would suggest you consider the following to improve airflow, temps and noise:
1. Remove the rear grill mesh with a nibbler tool. Check out the Nibbler Club item in my sig for more details. With the rear grill gone you will gain a notably higher amount of air blowing out the rear of the case. You may not even need a fan there if you're happy with your temps. That was the case for me as I like a quieter PC.
2. Whether the rear grill is removed or not you should look into replacing the rear exhaust fan. That is, if you intend to still use a rear exhaust fan. There are a ton of choices here. I've become a recent fan of both Bitfenix Spectre Pro (140+ 200mm) and Phanteks (140mm). A lot of folks in the 650D thread really like the Bitfenix fans. thumb.gif
If you run the fans on the SA at 100% the above changes will help lower your temps. If you are going for a more quiet setup definitely look into removing the rear grill. The Noctua would be able to more effectively handle the lower volume or air trying to escape the case. The Positive Airflow Cooling item in my sig may also be helpful. thumb.gif
If you never want to hear how noisy 140mm fans spinning at 2500 RPM are then definitely get the SB-E. The TY-141 and TY-150 more tons of air and are not noisy at all. thumb.gif

Well, the fan pads have some sort of soft glue to hold them in place. Some tape should be ok. Though, this gives me some hope smile.gif



edit: speaking of fan pad, the clips i bought came with two different sizes of pad. I'll use the one that I didn't use to protect the heatsink from shorting the top gpu's pcb thumb.gif
Edited by wermad - 7/24/12 at 4:07am
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Originally Posted by skyisover View Post

Anyone got a SA SB-E Extreme yet? I'm looking to buy a TR air cooler but don't know whether I should get the SB-E regular or the SB-E extreme. Guess the noise level turns me off. But can you lower it? Sorry have no experience with air coolers.

There is no reason to believe the TY-143 will be any louder in the 700-1300rpm range than the TY-140. From 1300-2500rpm yes, it will be louder.

I will have 2x TY-143 fans in my hands tomorrow. Will start testing in a day or 2 and let you know for sure.
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panel side fan (Bitfenix 230mm) hits the SA frown.giffrown.giffrown.gif.

I'm going to mod my panel so I can position the window lower and towards the gpu.

edit: thinking of just switching cases frown.gif
Edited by wermad - 7/24/12 at 3:25pm
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

There is no reason to believe the TY-143 will be any louder in the 700-1300rpm range than the TY-140. From 1300-2500rpm yes, it will be louder.
I will have 2x TY-143 fans in my hands tomorrow. Will start testing in a day or 2 and let you know for sure.

Just remembered there was the SA SB-E Archon. Which one is better between those two? The SA SB-E Extreme or the SB-E Archon?
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There's no such thing as a SBE-E Archon. The Archon is a different cooler altogether
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There's no such thing as a SBE-E Archon. The Archon is a different cooler altogether

But there is a Thermalright Archon SB-E
http://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/pc-hardware/601-thermalright-archon-sb-e-cpu-cooler
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

But there is a Thermalright Archon SB-E
http://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/pc-hardware/601-thermalright-archon-sb-e-cpu-cooler

That's the one. I was wondering which one was better.
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You mean Silver Arrow SB-E vs Archon SB-E???

I don't mind helping you with information, but I refuse to think for you too. rolleyes.gif



There's a Thermalright True Spirit 140 Extreme too
http://purecooling.com/?nas=product.browse&catid=37
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