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From what I've seen using a TY-150 in the center of the SA in my current setup (TY-140/TY-150) it didn't drop the VRM temps that much. Maybe 1-2c so don't expect much from that with the SB-E. Also keep in mind others with Asus Intel boards similar to yours (Rampage models) have had clearance issues with the top PCI-e x16 slots. I'm very interested to see how it goes with the Crosshair. thumb.gif

Hmm, I was not aware of this clearance problem. Has anyone actually tried one on a Crosshair V board somewhere online? I'm going to go see if I can find anything. That would sort of be bad, since I need space between my 470s, kinda need the top slot. Thanks for the input!

About the VRM, the TY150 might help on a board like the Crosshair, it has a rather large VRM heatsink on it, so it would get a lot of the flow from the bottom of the fan.

As for RAM, lol. Just lol. This RAM doesn't even get warm, that's with no airflow as my board is sitting on top of a box right now. rolleyes.gif
    
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Keep in mind SA SB-E is 155mm wide, 130mm deep, 164mm high looking at it from front of case with rear exhaust.

155mm wide meand 78mm each side of CPU centerline... 78mm center of CPU to PCI slot.

With TY-140/141/143 being 152x141mm no additional width but with TY-150 being 168mm means 84mm from center of CPU. wink.gif

Assume you will be using low profile RAM. If your case is 175mm clearance your ram will need to be 34mm or shorter for 140mm fan to set above it. wink.gif
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Keep in mind SA SB-E is 155mm wide, 130mm deep, 164mm high looking at it from front of case with rear exhaust.
155mm wide meand 78mm each side of CPU centerline... 78mm center of CPU to PCI slot.
With TY-140/141/143 being 152x141mm no additional width but with TY-150 being 168mm means 84mm from center of CPU. wink.gif
Assume you will be using low profile RAM. If your case is 175mm clearance your ram will need to be 34mm or shorter for 140mm fan to set above it. wink.gif

My RAM is shoter than the clips that holds it in biggrin.gif Gotta love Samsung wonderram haha. 84mm from the center of the CPU, hmm. Need the measurements of the Crosshair as I don't physically have the board yet. It probably wouldn't apply to a different ASUS board would it? I could measure the one I currently have- but that is probably irrelevant frown.gif
    
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Hmm, I was not aware of this clearance problem. Has anyone actually tried one on a Crosshair V board somewhere online? I'm going to go see if I can find anything. That would sort of be bad, since I need space between my 470s, kinda need the top slot. Thanks for the input!
About the VRM, the TY150 might help on a board like the Crosshair, it has a rather large VRM heatsink on it, so it would get a lot of the flow from the bottom of the fan.
As for RAM, lol. Just lol. This RAM doesn't even get warm, that's with no airflow as my board is sitting on top of a box right now. rolleyes.gif

I did see that when I looked up the board before my last post. You may actually see a more noticeable difference with the SB-E vs. something like one of those Corsair water blah blahs. biggrin.gif

A decently powerful mid-case fan may also prove helpful in your situation. thumb.gif

EDIT: Here's the SA on the last Formula board. Clicky.
Edited by solsamurai - 9/5/12 at 9:11pm
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Hmm, I was not aware of this clearance problem. Has anyone actually tried one on a Crosshair V board somewhere online? I'm going to go see if I can find anything. That would sort of be bad, since I need space between my 470s, kinda need the top slot. Thanks for the input!
About the VRM, the TY150 might help on a board like the Crosshair, it has a rather large VRM heatsink on it, so it would get a lot of the flow from the bottom of the fan.
As for RAM, lol. Just lol. This RAM doesn't even get warm, that's with no airflow as my board is sitting on top of a box right now. rolleyes.gif

Good thought about TY-150 helping cool VRM. thumb.gif On that thought I've been considering the idea of some 30mm fans setting under cooler blowing on VRM. wink.gif

I'm using a paper towel sleeve with a 40mm fan on the end blowing on my northbridge. Combined with removing the blue covers it's lowered temp 15-20c. smile.gif
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I did see that when I looked up the board before my last post. You may actually see a more noticeable difference with the SB-E vs. something like one of those Corsair water blah blahs. biggrin.gif
A decently powerful mid-case fan may also prove helpful in your situation. thumb.gif
EDIT: Here's the SA on the last Formula board. Clicky.

Thanks a ton for that link! thumb.gif It does look MIGHTY close to that card though, at least the slot is still usable. I notice, it isn't much larger in width than the DIMM slots, or- at least it doesn't appear that way. So it should fit, yeh biggrin.gif

+Rep'd

Now about the Sabertooth 990 R2... (still sort of torn on that board, but I'll probably just end up getting the Crosshair anyway, I know me)... Haha biggrin.gif At least the SA color scheme would go half decent with that board. tongue.gif

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Good thought about TY-150 helping cool VRM. On that thought I've been considering the idea of some 30mm fans setting under cooler blowing on VRM.
Just experienced VRM failure not too long ago. Don't plan on doing this again, haha. It was probably pretty starved due to the H80, but it seemed to work fine for a year. :/

Some smaller fans actually might help, I might try that, but I've got nothing. Just a bunch of 120+. Sort of curious about shrouding the NB/VRM heatsink with a blower fan a la GPU style, but that is probably beyond my mod skill hah.
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Some smaller fans actually might help, I might try that, but I've got nothing. Just a bunch of 120+. Sort of curious about shrouding the NB/VRM heatsink with a blower fan a la GPU style, but that is probably beyond my mod skill hah.

Building a shroud / duct is really easy. I use file folders for material.. or whatever card stock. Start by measuring and making up each side and fold for different sides. I fold a 10-12mm edge for gluing to next piece and glue with glue stick or tape pieces together. Don't worry about what it looks like. Just make sure it works. Then I use that as pattern to make a nice looking one and use spray paint of color I want it to be. Works great!

Click on my avatar and enlarge it. If you look real close you can see a black shroud on top fan ducting air to top vent. wink.gif
Edited by doyll - 9/5/12 at 10:24pm
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Keep in mind SA SB-E is 155mm wide, 130mm deep, 164mm high looking at it from front of case with rear exhaust.
155mm wide meand 78mm each side of CPU centerline... 78mm center of CPU to PCI slot.
With TY-140/141/143 being 152x141mm no additional width but with TY-150 being 168mm means 84mm from center of CPU. wink.gif
Assume you will be using low profile RAM. If your case is 175mm clearance your ram will need to be 34mm or shorter for 140mm fan to set above it. wink.gif

Don't know why i didn't think of a little algebra before, it just came to me. I set images of both boards I had in mind to scale- (rough estimates!, I know this isn't perfect)- with my old Gigabyte board, by using the measurements of the DIMM slots.

According to a little quick and dirty calculation, the Crosshair V Formula-Z has ~80.65mm of safe clearance, and the Sabertooth R2 has ~91.875mm of safe clearance (socket-center to PCI slot). The heatsink itself would fit, at 155mm wide, but I'd have to replace the TY150, or it's going to sit on my GPU frown.gif... Might go with the sabertooth, or possibly- the NON-SBE Silver Arrow.

Which do you think is smarter? Different board, different cooler?... Sabertooth over the Crosshair would have me some money too, no doubt. Ordering soon, got paid- wewt.
    
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Coolers I can give reasonable guidelines, but I'm not up on motherboards.

Changing from 150 to 141 is no big deal if you have 141 fan clips. Not sure what comes with SA SB-E. Using 140mm instead of 150 will not hurt performs.. Only running 1x 140mm will decrease cooling by 1-2c.

Silver Arrow SB-E is a great cooler but there are several others with it at front of pack
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