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Thermalright doesn't spec it and I don't know of any independent tester who has. That said I would take what the manufacturer's say their fan specs are with salt. Many are far from accurate.
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Thermalright doesn't spec it and I don't know of any independent tester who has. That said I would take what the manufacturer's say their fan specs are with salt. Many are far from accurate.

+1. It's more fun to test it yourself anyway...and then post the results here! thumb.gif
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Test both if you can! The 38mm fan will trump the other at the same rpm, if they didn't screw up the blade design completely. thumb.gif
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Just remembered ehume picked TY-140 and Scythe Kaze Maru 2 / Slip Stream 140 PWM as his best of 2012 140mm fans. Based on that I suspect the TY-143 which is just a 2500rpm version of TY-140 so should be even better.

TY-140 is 73.6cfm @ 1300rpm

Slip Steam 140mm is 92.4cfm @ 1700rpm with 2,32 mmH2O

Ty-143 is 130cfm @ 2500rpm

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/120mm_and_140mm_fan_comparison,22.html
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That means the FHP141 with its blasting 171 CFM is the absolute winner
The db are somehow less as well (because of the lower rpm)? cool.gif

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=366&area=en&tid=

I wasn't sure about its static pressure (3.7 mm-H2O) and I was wondering if a TY-143 (already got one) can get some more at 2500 rpm

I should try to replace my D14 push AP-29 with the TY-143 testing at the same conditions and TOA and, why not, get a FHP141 and see the difference rolleyes.gif
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That means the FHP141 with its blasting 171 CFM is the absolute winner
The db are somehow less as well (because of the lower rpm)? cool.gif

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=366&area=en&tid=

I wasn't sure about its static pressure (3.7 mm-H2O) and I was wondering if a TY-143 (already got one) can get some more at 2500 rpm

I should try to replace my D14 push AP-29 with the TY-143 testing at the same conditions and TOA and, why not, get a FHP141 and see the difference rolleyes.gif

Yeah, that would be sweet, specially with a more restrictive heatsink like the original Silver Arrow. Your d14 is tuned for silence so you won't see a big difference with it. 171cfm is a REALLY wild claim by the manufacturer, specially for the max rpm. No way in hell lol
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Originally Posted by arrow0309 View Post

That means the FHP141 with its blasting 171 CFM is the absolute winner
The db are somehow less as well (because of the lower rpm)? cool.gif

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=366&area=en&tid=

I wasn't sure about its static pressure (3.7 mm-H2O) and I was wondering if a TY-143 (already got one) can get some more at 2500 rpm

I should try to replace my D14 push AP-29 with the TY-143 testing at the same conditions and TOA and, why not, get a FHP141 and see the difference rolleyes.gif
Would be real interesting to see how FHP141 and TY-143 compare on same heatsink. Look forward to seeing what you find out.
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To all SB-E and SB-E Extreme users out there. How loud are the fans? Anyone tried replacing them with something "better" such as a Noctua A15?
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To all SB-E and SB-E Extreme users out there. How loud are the fans? Anyone tried replacing them with something "better" such as a Noctua A15?
Saying the A15 is "better" is very subjective. Quieter at 1200rpm yes, but what would TY-140 be at 1200rpm vs 21dBA at 1300rpm. My guess is the same or less... and you are going to be hard pressed to hear the difference between 19.2 and 21dBA. TY-143 is 4 times as loud moving twice as much air and spinning more than twice as fast. You can compare them all at 1200rpm and my guess is they will be very similar. But to compare them at full speed is like comparing a bitter decorative crab apple to a sweet golden delicious apple.. Both are apples and not much else in common.

NF-A15 = 67.9cfm @ 1200rpm & 19.2dBA
TY-140 = 73.4cfm @ 1300rpm & 21dBA
TY-143 = 130cfm @ 2500rpm & 45dBA

And of course this is using manufacturer specifications so again. I suspect they are relatively close to real, but...

Here's a link to a video review of H100, SA SB-E & SA SB-E Extreme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6xrsuPwDbo
jump in to 3:40 for results

I found it very interesting how much better the SA SB-E does when it's running fans similar to what H100 has. wink.gif Similar results have been found running high cfm / high speed fans on other big twin towers as well.

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Temperature is delta.

H100 . . . . . . . . 41c 2500rpm. . . . . . . . 55dBA 2
SA SB-E . . . . . . 42c 1100rpm & 1300rpm 38dBA TY-150 & TY-141
SA SB-E Extreme 34c 2500rpm. . . . . . . . 56dBA 2x TY-143

Here's a link to a bunch of sound bites of different coolers idle and full speed.
http://www.hardwaremax.net/reviews/kuehler/488-test-thermalright-archon-sb-e.html?showall=0&start=6

Just remember that the SA SB-E and SA SB-E Extreme sound the same from idle to 1300rpm. It is only above 1300rpm that the SA SB-E Extreme gets louder.
Edited by doyll - 3/22/13 at 2:30am
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Saying the A15 is "better" is very subjective. Quieter at 1200rpm yes, but what would TY-140 be at 1200rpm vs 21dBA at 1300rpm. My guess is the same or less... and you are going to be hard pressed to hear the difference between 19.2 and 21dBA. TY-143 is 4 times as loud moving twice as much air and spinning more than twice as fast. You can compare them all at 1200rpm and my guess is they will be very similar. But to compare them at full speed is like comparing a bitter decorative crab apple to a sweet golden delicious apple.. Both are apples and not much else in common.

NF-A15 = 67.9cfm @ 1200rpm & 19.2dBA
TY-140 = 73.4cfm @ 1300rpm & 21dBA
TY-143 = 130cfm @ 2500rpm & 45dBA

And of course this is using manufacturer specifications so again. I suspect they are relatively close to real, but...

Here's a link to a video review of H100, SA SB-E & SA SB-E Extreme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6xrsuPwDbo
jump in to 3:40 for results

I found it very interesting how much better the SA SB-E does when it's running fans similar to what H100 has. wink.gif Similar results have been found running high cfm / high speed fans on other big twin towers as well.

i7 3820 @4.75GHz
Temperature is delta.

H100 . . . . . . . . 41c 2500rpm. . . . . . . . 55dBA 2
SA SB-E . . . . . . 42c 1100rpm & 1300rpm 38dBA TY-150 & TY-141
SA SB-E Extreme 34c 2500rpm. . . . . . . . 56dBA 2x TY-143

Here's a link to a bunch of sound bites of different coolers idle and full speed.
http://www.hardwaremax.net/reviews/kuehler/488-test-thermalright-archon-sb-e.html?showall=0&start=6

Just remember that the SA SB-E and SA SB-E Extreme sound the same from idle to 1300rpm. It is only above 1300rpm that the SA SB-E Extreme gets louder.
So both the SB-E and SB-E Extreme are the same cooler but with different fans right? Any idea where I can buy either of these in Canada?
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