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Originally Posted by arrow0309;14741140 
Forgot to mention before, will a Kama Flex 135mm @1600 rpm fan (about 100 cfm):

work better than the original TY-140 as central (first of the TY-140) pull fan in that 3 fan formula? confused.gif

I believe the TY-140s have better static pressure than the Kama Flex fans, so the extra 25cfm from the Kama Flex probably won't improve your cooling much. If you want to upgrade the to higher performance fans over the TY-140s you're going to want to look at some medium to high speed Deltas, Scythe Gentle Typhoons, or Scythe Ultra Kaze.

I run 3x Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP-29s on my Silver Arrow and Prime95 load temps dropped ~4C from the stock TY-140s.

Edit: From those pics you posted it looks like your ram will clear the heatsink and should clear a fan as long as it's bumped up. You can adjust the height of the fan on the Silver Arrow to a small extent.
Edited by HWI - 8/28/11 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by arrow0309;14741071 
Thanks! You bet I will post those pics! cool.gif

I'm thinking about how to install the fans because of the ram clearance (mine are G.Skill Perfect Storm air cooled). I didn't figure it out yet if I could somehow use the classic push / push fan formula.
Now assuming that I'll use the other (pull / pull) fan formula:



Let's say my mobo's ram area is more like this:



Now, aware of some C degree loss due to the fan formula I'll probably have to use, I was wondering if (removing the ram cooler) it could be possible for me to add a third front 120mm (push) fan just above the ram area?

My P.S. G.Skill's are pretty like these (here I think is a Cogage Arrow):


And here's another pic that I can figure a 120mm fan (like an AP-29) could place over the ram (in a three fan setup as I mention before):



Sorrry for all these pics. smile.gif
Any advice?

I would try using a push-center setup with your case. It may be that the side panel on your case will fit. You never know until you try it.
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Originally Posted by arrow0309;14741140 
Forgot to mention before, will a Kama Flex 135mm @1600 rpm fan (about 100 cfm):

KAMA-135-1600_01.jpg

work better than the original TY-140 as central (first of the TY-140) pull fan in that 3 fan formula? confused.gif

See all that space between the blades? That's a sign of a low static pressure fan. Will it make a difference with the Silver Arrow? Hard to say. I know that the P14 and the TY-140 do pretty well on my D14, and they're fairly high static pressure (see item 4 in my sig, chapter 1).

Since you seem to be running a Gigabyte board you can use pretty much any fan you like. If you have a Voltage-controlled fan you can set the Gigabyte mb to Voltage control in BIOS under PC Health. For any other mb you must either use pwm fans like the TY-140 or live with fans that cannot be controlled by the mb.
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I have my new silver arrow exhausting out back and was wondering if I would get better results with it exhausting up through the large grill with the 200mm fan. My 6970 sprays heat throughout the case and the temps on my gpu oc are higher than before.
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Originally Posted by onthemour;14746394 
I have my new silver arrow exhausting out back and was wondering if I would get better results with it exhausting up through the large grill with the 200mm fan. My 6970 sprays heat throughout the case and the temps on my gpu oc are higher than before.

I would dought it, then your intake will be sucking air fresh off the GPU, but its worth a try to make sure:)
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yeah all the hot air off the gpu would probably not be so good. I will try it and see
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yay this thing is quiet.
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yay this thing is quiet.

Epic ain't it?
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Originally Posted by HWI;14741509 
I believe the TY-140s have better static pressure than the Kama Flex fans, so the extra 25cfm from the Kama Flex probably won't improve your cooling much. If you want to upgrade the to higher performance fans over the TY-140s you're going to want to look at some medium to high speed Deltas, Scythe Gentle Typhoons, or Scythe Ultra Kaze.

I run 3x Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP-29s on my Silver Arrow and Prime95 load temps dropped ~4C from the stock TY-140s.

Edit: From those pics you posted it looks like your ram will clear the heatsink and should clear a fan as long as it's bumped up. You can adjust the height of the fan on the Silver Arrow to a small extent.

Thanks, as a matter of fact the ram that I have (without the cooler) will indeed clear the front fan, even in the classic Push / Push TY-140 formula:

qoakn6.jpg

+1

I've allready given up using the Kama Flex (actualy my side panel case fan) & gonna use the 1 AP-29 + 2 TY-140 or 1 TY-140 + 2 GT's smile.gif
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Originally Posted by ehume;14741773 
I would try using a push-center setup with your case. It may be that the side panel on your case will fit. You never know until you try it.



See all that space between the blades? That's a sign of a low static pressure fan. Will it make a difference with the Silver Arrow? Hard to say. I know that the P14 and the TY-140 do pretty well on my D14, and they're fairly high static pressure (see item 4 in my sig, chapter 1).

Since you seem to be running a Gigabyte board you can use pretty much any fan you like. If you have a Voltage-controlled fan you can set the Gigabyte mb to Voltage control in BIOS under PC Health. For any other mb you must either use pwm fans like the TY-140 or live with fans that cannot be controlled by the mb.

+1

Thanks again, I've just read your post on the D14 secrets and I really liked this fan setup:

20110829071315_Cooling_and_SPL_Results_for_NH-D14.jpg

I'll have some time to think of the best possible setup with the TY-140 center push and two AP-15 or one AP-15 and one AP-29 (front push). cool.gif

One last thing, I also have 2 NOISEBLOCKER BLACKSILENTFAN XK2 140mm top case exhaust fan, can I maybe improove something (thinkin' about the ram cooling too) inverting the first one (right fan) to push the air inside? confused.gif
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I tried the upward exhaust and the idle temps where 5 degrees lower but under load it was way to hot. 4.5 1.32v prime95 instantly jumped to 70 degrees and rose up. I also noticed I get better temps without the intake and top fan on high. I use a Kaze server to lower them the slowest and they are silent.

I was using a h50 push/pull with gentle typhoons before this and the load temps where much higher, this thing is great and silent. I haven't read all this thread but I am wondering what the best performance fans to use that are silent?
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Originally Posted by onthemour;14746500 
yay this thing is quiet.

Wow, I go out of town for the weekend and the club explodes with activity! biggrin.gif OP update. thumb.gif
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