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post #11 of 22
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Thanks! I was thinking about the Rasa 240 originally and yes I suppose I can do without the secondary optical (as though I was using it anyways lol).

I have the spot in the back of the Antec 1200 where there are two case fans vertically installed already, so I'll just mount the 240 rad where those were. Could I keep the Antec Tricool fans on the rad? Or should I use the fans that come with it? I've read reviews saying that the fans make very little difference and others that say that they are important.

Arksniper: Could you explain what the silver kill coil or pt nuke is? I assume it kills bacteria (lol) but does it go in the res?

You could use whichever fans are appropriate for whichever watercooling kit (or just radiator) you end up going with. With high FPI density radiators (HW labs Black Ice line) you want high RPM fans (>1200 rpm), and with low FPI density radiators (Swiftech QP line, XSPC RS series, etc) you can use lower RPM fans and still get effective cooling.

fr0st just posted a great quick guide on some of that stuff here and I've added links to it as well.

Fans make or break a radiator, so they are more important than people lead on about.

You could certainly mount a 240 rad on the back of your case. Is there other ventilation in that case? Corsair recommends sucking air in from the back and through the radiator, dumping the heat into the case with their H50/60/70 kits. That's great for keeping temps lower, but it increases internal computer case temperature. You have to see whether your case has adequate ventilation to make that work. If not, then you can always have it exhaust out of the back of the case, you'll just have to probably use the fans in a pulling configuration to be able to mount the radiator on the back of the case. Really it's only a minor impact on cooling temperatures.

For the kill coil, you just put it in your reservoir so its in contact with the water. PT nuke is a liquid drop that you put a few drops (follow instructions, I'm WAY overgeneralizing) into anywhere in your water loop, and it'll prevent bacterial or algal growth in your loop.
post #12 of 22
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Just looked again at the XSPC, is it possible to find a RX240 kit? I only see an RS so far for $130.
http://www.jab-tech.com/XSPC-Rasa-75...t-pr-4779.html

You can use code "facebook" there for 5% off as well

Edit: It's out of stock there, but they seem to have it here:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=30280

I just made an order from Performance Pcs, and I had good luck. Some people have had bad luck. It's luck of the draw it seems like :/
post #13 of 22
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Ok, so basically the RX series has RX parts rather than RS (which I assume to be better quality/more expandable). I found the Rasa 750 RX240 at sidewinder.com for $169.95 ($181 with tax) and the RS240 at $130 from frozencpu.com. Would the RX240 give me a $50 increase in cooling quality/expandability?

Also, now thinking about mounting situations:

There are two hose slots below the two case fans on the Antec 1200, I could theoretically mount the rad on the back of the case rather than on the inside, correct? If I can, what would be the best way to do that? (i.e. fans blowing out the back from the inside with the rad on the back tube side down, etc.)

Also, right now I have a AMD Phenom II x6 1090T Black Edition processor in my rig. The RS240 looks like it doesn't fit the AM3, but the RX240 does, is this true?
    
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post #14 of 22
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Thanks Dr.GumbyM.D.

So I'll assume the RX240 is worth it then.

From what you told me about fans, the Antec tricool's should work fine (2000 rpm, 79 CFM), though I'll do testing with the XSPC stocks and the Antec's to see which performs better in the end.

I certainly do have ample ventilation in the 1200. Three 120s front blowing back, one side 120 blowing on GPU, one top 200 blowing down into case, two back fans blowing out towards the back. My ambient temps don't really get above 88 F. So I guess I could do the rad mounted on the back, if I understood it better.

Basically the rad is mounted on the back, then the fans suck air from the back into the case? Would the fans have to be on the outside of the case as well, or could I leave them on the interior back spots and reverse their flow direction? I feel like that would be a little more tidy looking and I could avoid having to do any case mods really.
    
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post #15 of 22
The only difference is the radiator, to my knowledge, which has higher FPI/more fin density, so it takes a little bit faster fans to run it, but it can handle more heat.

You could mount any radiator externally, evena 360 on the back. you can use a Swiftech Radbox or another form of external mount.

For an internal mount, you would leave the fans on the inside usually, but you could do outside if the case is perfectly flat in back (mine has an indentation for the fans of like 1-3mm, so a radiator wouldn't fit flush.

You could rotate your fans direction either way, and set it up as you choose, but there will be some performance considerations.
post #16 of 22
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Ok, I get it now. So the best I could do is mount the radiator on the back (the back is flat) and have the fans on the inside but sucking air in? That seems like it would be close to perfect.

One last question before I start on this project, does the RX240 block need the AM3 kit to fit on my AMD AM3 processor? Or should it fit without any change whatsoever?
    
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post #17 of 22
There is a guy selling some brand new water cooling gear in the fs forum. Here is the link in case you are interested.
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post #18 of 22
^^ awesome setup, considering it includes two radiators (the 220 is mislabeled in his ad. The 220 is a radiator). It's 3/8, so it's not super-high-flow, but it'll certainly get the job done, and the price is more than reasonable. You'd still need to buy a waterblock though.
post #19 of 22
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Would that setup ^^ with the rasa waterblock be better than the rasa rx240 kit?
    
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post #20 of 22
Eh long term yes. The radiator in the RX kit is better, but the reservoir/pump in the rasa kit kinda sucks. It's tradeoffs. A good pump will last you a lot longer, and can be adapted with different reservoirs and pump heads from custom manufacturers.
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