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Originally Posted by TigerLord;13139106 
It wouldn't have mattered to me because the BIOS switch and backplate were not relevant in my decision to get a reference card. Does this make XFX's actions right? No it does not.

As others have said here, for some getting a real reference model with the backplate and BIOS switch would have been important to them. Hence why I am warning the enthusiast community to be cautious.

Isn't that the point of a community? Help and support each other?

Bingo! Unfortunately, the trolls are hungry today. Hang in there, TigerLord. cheers.gif
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Thread served it's purpose..why is this still ongoing?

People have a right to know what XFX did if they aren't going to disclose..if you agree, or disagree, or don't care, everyone has a right to the info.

The opinions are irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by tsm106;13139157 
You didn't make that kind of thread. You made a hate thread thereby getting all the xfx haters rolling.

That is your interpretation and I do not agree with it. I re-read my original post and I find it to be clear, concise, to the point and not emotionally compromised. It presents facts as they were provided to me, and it does not seek to manipulate.

Whatever reactions ensued isn't my responsibility. I was the victim of XFX's dishonesty/incompetence, wasted many hours trying to get to the bottom of it, and came to the conclusion that such business practices should be exposed if only so another enthusiast does not get the shaft like I did. If it was clear all along AMD opted for the changes, XFX should have been able to alter their model number (they were already selling a non reference card under a different model) like MSI or PowerColor did. Instead, they blamed a retailer who clearly, has NOTHING to do with the problem.

You do not know me personally, so do not pretend to know or imply I had hidden, self-indulgent motives for posting this thread. You might not agree with my position, that's your right, but don't patronize me for it.
    
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+Rep for letting us know that XFX is sucking it up again and offerings crappier products for the same price as others. I would have never bought an XFX before this, but this just reinforces me never wanting anything XFX.

I have my Asus 6950 unlocked and boy am I happy with it!

I would be pretty cheesed off if I bought a card and a water block that were supposed to work with each other only to have something like this happen. Stay with reputable manufacturers like Asus. They are always the best imo.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TigerLord;13139218 
Whatever reactions ensued isn't my responsibility.

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I am not that familiar with AMD but is this 1.1 card the same model you will get from every vendor when getting a "reference card" or just a few? I find it hard to believe that there are two models of reference cards out there but maybe I am just used to Nvidia.

I assume the description of the card on NCIX stated your card had the bios switch right?

I have to agree with the OP here, someone screwed up and implied that this was smae card that was being sold previously and listed it under the same model number. I don't know if it was NCIX or XFX but clearly the distinction should be made clearer.

and wow, this is like catnip to trolls.
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Tried XFX one more time before calling quits on them again. Never liked the company and never will. Thanks for a concise report nonetheless.
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Originally Posted by tats;13139300 
I am not that familiar with AMD but is this 1.1 card the same model you will get from every vendor when getting a "reference card" or just a few?

That's the issue. All reference cards should be identical, because... well... they're the "reference".

Conventions on model nomenclature for the 69XX generation has been HD-697A-BLABLABLA, where an A appears after the "697" or some other letter, to indicate whether a card is reference or not.

So if you order a card labeled HD-697ACN-FC, the same model appears on the outside of the box, but when you open it, you find no AMD logo above the PCI-E lane, no BIOS switch, no backplate, and a significantly altered PCB... this is clearly not a reference PCB, so the model HD697ACNFC should have been modified. This is confusing indeed, and is why I posted about this.

Other vendors, such as PowerColor and MSI, sell the new PCB, but under different model numbers. I believe ASUS only sells reference cards.

I do not know about the rest. Proper research is a must these days!
    
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post #109 of 234
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Originally Posted by TigerLord;13139374 
That's the issue. All reference cards should be identical, because... well... they're the "reference".

Conventions on model nomenclature for the 69XX generation has been HD-697A-BLABLABLA, where an A appears after the "697" or some other letter, to indicate whether a card is reference or not.

So if you order a card labeled HD-697ACN-FC, the same model appears on the outside of the box, but when you open it, you find no AMD logo above the PCI-E lane, no BIOS switch, no backplate, and a significantly altered PCB... this is clearly not a reference PCB, so the model HD697ACNFC should have been modified. This is confusing indeed, and is why I posted about this.

Other vendors, such as PowerColor and MSI, sell the new PCB, but under different model numbers. I believe ASUS only sells reference cards.

I do not know about the rest. Proper research is a must these days!


Thats what I thought, thats a scam. Sucks man
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it is funny. i just called MSI and the "tech" guy had no idea AMD has changed the layout of the PCB's and they should be the ones at these companies that should know before the customers even know. So How is it that we the customers should be the ones responsible for making sure the makers of the cards are doing what they are supposed to and know info that they themselves dont even know? I am going to get an MSI 6970 now since I know it is a refernece design and weather or not it is the old or the new version reference is not important since someone will make a block for it.
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