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It is not just XFX as I am finding out now. Power Color uses the same PCB and I think MSI does as well. The other may change as well. I wouldnt jump on the hate XFX bandwagon just yet. The only thing I dont like about XFX is that they got rid of the bios switch, but as long as I can still OC the XFX referenced card I will get it otherwise I will get a sapphire.

I do see the OP's frustration though. It is not so easy to know about these changes unless you watch the boards closely and look at Tomshardware site every day. I know I dont have that kind of time to spend researching. It is the vendors responsibility to know of these changes before the consumer make it clear in the write ups on their sites. They know people water cool these cards and this could cause major order errors. It is only right that newegg and others keep abreast of these changes.


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Wow, this all but ensures that XFX stays on my black list.

Edited by Topgearfan - 4/14/11 at 10:54pm
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XFX's nvidia cards have been great for me, but their ATI department seems to have their heads up their rear-ends. They've been on my blacklist since the whole 4890 fiasco. I skipped over a cheaper XFX 5850 for sale for the Sapphire I now have in my sig.
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My thread is extremely rational.

I ordered the block before I even received the card, based on the model number, which was triple checked with their EK's Cooling Configurator and confirmed as compatible. I did my homework more than correctly.

XFX used a reference model number but shipped me a non reference PCB. How is this even remotely my fault? It's not rocket science to understand.
Now your whining like a kid who didn't read the fine print. Manufacturers always reserve the right to change the product. It's their right. It's not your right to be notified of it!

Like I said, it's unfortunate, but I don't see how it's XFX's fault your block doesn't fit. They didn't tie you up or squeeze your arm making you buy the block sight unseen, or card unseen for that matter.
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It is not just XFX as I am finding out now. Power Color uses the same PCB and I think MSI does as well. The other may change as well. I wouldnt jump on the hate XFX bandwagon just yet. The only thing I dont like about XFX is that they got rid of the bios switch, but as long as I can still OC the XFX referenced card I will get it otherwise I will get a sapphire.
That's true, but PowerColor and MSI adjusted model numbers.

XFX began selling the HD697ACNFC with reference PCB, but then silently changed the components and design, without changing the model number.

This was the initial cause of puzzlement, and is at the very source of my thread.

It's A-OK to change components and PCB, but any drastic change should be followed by a model number change.
    
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Haha sorry for taking this serious discussion and adding this.. but when I saw the title for the thread, I misread. Thought it was a troll thread about XFX coming out with passively cooled 6970.
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100% agree with you. See my edit in my post above

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That's true, but PowerColor and MSI adjusted model numbers.

XFX began selling the HD697ACNFC with reference PCB, but then silently changed the components and design, without changing the model number.

This was the initial cause of puzzlement, and is at the very source of my thread.

It's A-OK to change components and PCB, but any drastic change should be followed by a model number change.
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Now your whining like a kid who didn't read the fine print. Manufacturers always reserve the right to change the product. It's their right. It's not your right to be notified of it!
You are being emotional in a thread supposed to be rational. Grow up.

Fact: XFX sold the HD697ACNFC with reference PCB and components. At some point, they silently made changes, but failed to change model number. Had they modified the model number, none of this would have happened. I would have known the card had a new design, and would have waited to receive the card before ordering a block.

I really don't think it's a difficult concept to grasp. It's not about them changing the design, it's about changing the design but selling it under a reference model number, causing unnecessary hassle and confusion.

Seriously, how hard would it have been to ship these cards under an altered model number like they already do for other cards?
    
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That's true, but PowerColor and MSI adjusted model numbers.

XFX began selling the HD697ACNFC with reference PCB, but then silently changed the components and design, without changing the model number.

This was the initial cause of puzzlement, and is at the very source of my thread.

It's A-OK to change components and PCB, but any drastic change should be followed by a model number change.
Lol, you fail to understand how kits are sold. They buy a kit from AMD, all parts are included inside the kit. XFX did not redesign anything! Your problem may actually be one, yer fault for not double checking, and two with AMD for going back to their original design.

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100% agree with you. See my edit in my post above
It's a fair point regarding changing the model number, but I have to think that the consumer has to be their own advocate to some degree no?
Edited by tsm106 - 4/14/11 at 11:04pm
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XFX

xfx and their non-cheeky shenanigans
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So what did XFX do? Nothing. They closed the ticket.

Someone on [H] suggested I PM an active XFX employee that has an account there, which I did. To his credit, he did offer a solution (which he asked me not to talk about), but it was too little too late: I had already ordered the V2 variant of the EK-6970FC block. What was the point, anyway? This was a one time fix for me... countless others stand to be taken by surprise unless XFX alerts vendors and customers, which from their attitude I doubt they will do.
Which was? Order another block?
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