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Witty, but it's dishonest. Yes, "correlation does not equal causation", but any kid who spends 8 hours a day gaming (or even more, many addicts play 10-12 hours a day) become isolated and depressed. You might argue that they play games all the time BECAUSE they're isolated and depressed, but that's not always the case. Anyone who's locks themselves in their room not talking to anyone, playing games till 5AM, waking up at 5PM and not seeing any sunlight because it's winter will become depressed. Gaming addict lifestyle contributes to depression, don't be dishonest like that and don't defend and rationalize the problem.
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Witty, but it's dishonest. Yes, "correlation does not equal causation", but any kid who spends 8 hours a day gaming (or even more, many addicts play 10-12 hours a day) become isolated and depressed. You might argue that they play games all the time BECAUSE they're isolated and depressed, but that's not always the case. Anyone who's locks themselves in their room not talking to anyone, playing games till 5AM, waking up at 5PM and not seeing any sunlight because it's winter will become depressed. Gaming addict lifestyle contributes to depression, don't be dishonest like that and don't defend and rationalize the problem.
Anyone going to bed at 5am and waking up at 5pm will have issues. I want the proof that video games have a direct connection to it. It's like saying most people who are depressed drive cars ergo, driving causes depression.
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Uhm.. usually the people who are on the computer a lot are on the computer a lot because they have nothing better to do, are fat, are not accepted by society for whatever reason, THIS is what would cause them to be suicidal, NOT being on the damn computer these idiotic studies need to stop.
And all the statements like this are just AS stupid as the study itself.

And really computers/internet is probably one of the most social activities out there anymore.

EDIT: Or maybe I've been apart of some strange minority of gamers who's on vent 24/7 an gaming for the lulz and $$
Edited by OwnedINC - 4/19/11 at 7:40am
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On a side note this study here shows some quite interesting facts.



Apparently, red is more.
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I think gaming can definitely make someone depressed, especially if they're addicted to it and never leave the house and socialize, but game playing can also be a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself. Most guys (gaming addiction and suicide rates are mostly a guy problem) aren't dumping their hot girlfriends and dropping out of school so they can play World of Warcraft all day. They're doing it because they have no girlfriend and life just sucks, so they're happy to waste away the hours living in a fantasy world where they don't have to worry about their grades, and they can "socialize" with others on a much easier level. If gaming and computers didn't exist, they'd turn to alcohol, or smoking, or drugs. Any sort of addiction (drugs, alcohol, gaming) is a symptom of a problem, not necessarily the problem itself.

With that said, many young people do lose their lives to gaming addictions cause everyone has easy computer access and they can rationalize their addiction by saying "At least I'm not on drugs!".

While many people can game regularly and have a normal life, many others can't, and that should be known.
I agree heroin addiction isn't a problem and I agree that playing Civ5 for 7 hours is a societal catastrophe on a scale not scene since the Goths and Vandals set up shop outside Rome's walls.
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You're 13

Most likely that lifestyle will get old after a while. It might've been fun while it lasted, but that can't be your whole life. At some point, you're gonna head out and do something.
Don't say that! My job ruins my gaming life DAILY!
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Anyone going to bed at 5am and waking up at 5pm will have issues. I want the proof that video games have a direct connection to it. It's like saying most people who are depressed drive cars ergo, driving causes depression.
When you play a game 10-15 hours a day because you're addicted to it, you're neglecting your life. Your hygiene suffers, you diet suffers, your social life suffers, and odds are you're skipping school and have a messed up sleep schedule.

Gaming/internet addictions are widespread because EVERYONE has a computer these days (unlike drugs), and it's an addiction that you can EASILY rationalize ("Oh...I was doing some homework/research for school too!", "Well, at least I'm not out there doing drugs mom!", "I could be doing much worse!").

It's come to a point now where most "socializing" is done on computers and phones these days. Do really expect someone who isolates themselves in their room 8 hours a day not seeing anyone or talking anyone NOT to be depressed? Real life person to person contact has been replaced by Facebook, Twitter, or some meaningless online "conversation" on Xbox.

Gaming is an EASY out for someone who wants to escape reality and their problems.
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Gaming is an EASY out for someone who wants to escape reality and their problems.
So Gaming is simply a side effect by this logic and not the root problem itself.
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There are a few opportunities for bias here:

30,000 questionnaires returned, out of how many that were sent out? Those who replied probably felt compelled to answer.

As the OP stated, depression and sadness being the reason they turn to gaming/internet.

The article doesn't define "Surfing the internet", which could mean anything from using gaming forums to social networking to internet research for school. Seven hour school day + five hours of internet research, as a current college student I can tell you I'd be depressed after that!
Edited by Flying Toilet - 4/19/11 at 2:04pm
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So Gaming is simply a side effect by this logic and not the root problem itself.
For some people it's a root cause, for other it isn't. Either way it can exacerbate the problem significantly. Don't downplay this.
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