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Ok, to start off im sorry for being nub and not knowing if this card unlocks. I dont believe its a refrence model hence the 2 fans, but I heard that the MSI Frozr III unlocks and thats not a refrence model.

So My question is will this card unlock (Dual Bios)?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-527-_-Product
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If I'm not mistaken, thats a NON reference card and therefore will NOT unlock.

But that means nothing because this is a 1GB card. No 1GB 6950 will unlock, simple as that.

It has to be a Reference 2GB to unlock. The best deal going right now (at least in canada) is the HIS 6950.
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1GB cards will NOT unlock.
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Negative.
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Yea only the 2GB cards are made from disabling shaders of a working 6970, hence why only the 2GB cards can unlock the disabled shaders and thus become a fully functioning factory 6970.
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If I'm not mistaken, thats a NON reference card and therefore will NOT unlock.

But that means nothing because this is a 1GB card. No 1GB 6950 will unlock, simple as that.

It has to be a Reference 2GB to unlock. The best deal going right now (at least in canada) is the HIS 6950.
You are wrong. Both the PowerColor PCS++ and Twin Frozr III unlocks.
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LOL. This is horrible I feel retarded I didn't notice it was a 1GB model. I saw this on a local sale post (Craigslist) for $200, but I wont be getting it since I wanted a 2GB unlockable model for Xfire. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by F-U-B-A-R View Post
Ok, to start off im sorry for being nub and not knowing if this card unlocks. I dont believe its a refrence model hence the 2 fans, but I heard that the MSI Frozr III unlocks and thats not a refrence model.

So My question is will this card unlock (Dual Bios)?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-527-_-Product
First off here a little something about the unlock
There are two types of 6950 unlocks:

Type 1 unlock: Shader increase to 1536 units (same as the 6970)
Type 2 unlock: Complete BIOS flash to a 6970

The type 1 unlock is almost risk free and can be achieved with almost all the 6950´s.
The type 2 unlock on the other hand is a bit more risky because due to the full 6970 BIOS flash also the timings of the 6970 and other settings which are different will be applied.
To some cards that ultimately can lead to card failure or mailfunction.
Further marginal differences can be seen here:

But be advised that the Type 2 unlock only yields about 1-3% performance increase.
Wheter the Type 1 unlock + stock 6970 clocks have shown to yield the exact same amount of performance a normal 6970 would achieve
So according to those results one could imply that a Type 1 unlock + stock 6970 settings would upgrade a 6950 to a full 6970 performancewise even though other settings or structural differences are unequal.



Both types of unlocks will void your warranty if something goes wrong so be sure to bare that in mind when doing it.
There have not been any long term studies about the affect of the unlocking process and further causations yet.....but I am confident to say that nobody has encountered any problems yet
So I personally would advise you to leave the unlock be as it is not included in the warranty and just overclock your card 5-10% higher ...thus a higher overclock should be able to not only compensate but even exceed the performance boost the unlock provides
And if you must have an unlocked card at least wait until we know more about its long term affects

I would also like to refer you to my thread in which similar questions and all advantages/features of the 6950 including all designs etc etc should be displayed and answered

http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/9848...md-6950-a.html

Here the full guide + tips on unlock from TechPowerUp:http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...ng/vidcard/159
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now you should be pretty much informed about the unlock.
Here a little bit about the unlockability of the 6950´s out there:


If a card unlocks or not is depending on wheter or not it has been laser cut to make it impossilbe for software to unlock the unfunctional units.

Another crutial part of the unlock is for the card to have a BIOS switch so in case somthing goes wrong you can always flash to the second BIOS.

Basically 90% of the tested Twin Frozr III cards unlocked fine there are already some newer laser cut products around so be careful to check the arrival date of the card at your local retailer before buying it to ensure it couldn´t have been laser cut yet.


Hope I could help
Anything earlier than March 15th should be fine I believe

Edit:1 GB Model all for nothing xD ...still if you meant the Twin Frozr III 2 GB the post still applies
Edited by Kung Pow - 4/15/11 at 7:34pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kung Pow View Post
First off here a little something about the unlock
There are two types of 6950 unlocks:

Type 1 unlock: Shader increase to 1536 units (same as the 6970)
Type 2 unlock: Complete BIOS flash to a 6970

The type 1 unlock is almost risk free and can be achieved with almost all the 6950´s.
The type 2 unlock on the other hand is a bit more risky because due to the full 6970 BIOS flash also the timings of the 6970 and other settings which are different will be applied.
To some cards that ultimately can lead to card failure or mailfunction.
Further marginal differences can be seen here:

But be advised that the Type 2 unlock only yields about 1-3% performance increase.
Wheter the Type 1 unlock + stock 6970 clocks have shown to yield the exact same amount of performance a normal 6970 would achieve
So according to those results one could imply that a Type 1 unlock + stock 6970 settings would upgrade a 6950 to a full 6970 performancewise even though other settings or structural differences are unequal.

Both types of unlocks will void your warranty if something goes wrong so be sure to bare that in mind when doing it.
There have not been any long term studies about the affect of the unlocking process and further causations yet.....but I am confident to say that nobody has encountered any problems yet
So I personally would advise you to leave the unlock be as it is not included in the warranty and just overclock your card 5-10% higher ...thus a higher overclock should be able to not only compensate but even exceed the performance boost the unlock provides
And if you must have an unlocked card at least wait until we know more about its long term affects

I would also like to refer you to my thread in which similar questions and all advantages/features of the 6950 including all designs etc etc should be displayed and answered

http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/9848...md-6950-a.html

Here the full guide + tips on unlock from TechPowerUp:http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...ng/vidcard/159
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now you should be pretty much informed about the unlock.
Here a little bit about the unlockability of the 6950´s out there:

If a card unlocks or not is depending on wheter or not it has been laser cut to make it impossilbe for software to unlock the unfunctional units.

Another crutial part of the unlock is for the card to have a BIOS switch so in case somthing goes wrong you can always flash to the second BIOS.

Basically 90% of the tested Twin Frozr III cards unlocked fine there are already some newer laser cut products around so be careful to check the arrival date of the card at your local retailer before buying it to ensure it couldn´t have been laser cut yet.


Hope I could help
Anything earlier than March 15th should be fine I believe

Edit:1 GB Model all for nothing xD ...still if you meant the Twin Frozr III 2 GB the post still applies
Haha, sorry
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You are wrong. Both the PowerColor PCS++ and Twin Frozr III unlocks.
I thought the Twin Frozr was non reference? I don't know of the powercolor cards, so I can't comment.

Also, solid info by Kung Pow, he got it right on the money. I knew there was 2 types and I thought the Bios flash was kind of useless given the problems since the shader unlock is basically the same performance, give or take a few points... Thanks for the details.
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