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It's $250 though! How low have you seen it?
It was this low when I had money but now I am broke.
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8ms (gray to gray) Not the best for gaming for sure, just to let people know.
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8ms (gray to gray) Not the best for gaming for sure, just to let people know.
im a pretty competetive fps player and i see no difference AT ALL from a 2ms TN except the IPS panel has awesome colors
i was at first little worried about U2311 s input lag problems people been talking about but even there i see no problems ...
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im a pretty competetive fps player and i see no difference AT ALL from a 2ms TN except the IPS panel has awesome colors
i was at first little worried about U2311 s input lag problems people been talking about but even there i see no problems ...
It is not something you will notice necessarily unless you have the 2 monitors sitting right next to one another, but there is a difference. And, being a pretty competitive FPS player you should understand that 6ms could very easily be the difference between you getting the shot off first, or the guy aiming down the sights at you. Once you get into the upper echelons of gaming every ms counts for sure. I personally noticed a difference between 8ms and 5ms, so the difference between 8ms and 2ms should be even more apparent.
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It is not something you will notice necessarily unless you have the 2 monitors sitting right next to one another, but there is a difference. And, being a pretty competitive FPS player you should understand that 6ms could very easily be the difference between you getting the shot off first, or the guy aiming down the sights at you. Once you get into the upper echelons of gaming every ms counts for sure. I personally noticed a difference between 8ms and 5ms, so the difference between 8ms and 2ms should be even more apparent.
You obviously don't understand response times at all.

Response times only tell us how much ghosting a display has. And that being said, the numbers are usually marketing lies. Even 2ms panels have 10ms in reality. Gray to gray is not an accurate basis for measurement.

What you are actually meaning to talk about is input lag. Now input lag isn't a feature that is advertised in most monitors. The lowest input lag is with CRT monitors.

Tn panels usually have lower input lag than IPS panels. However, IPS panels such as the U2311h have lower input lag than the majority of TN panels.
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So much misinformation in this thread.

This is an IPS panel, which is suitable for most gamers. If you were really a professional gamer, you would probably be using a CRT.
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You obviously don't understand response times at all.

Response times only tell us how much ghosting a display has. And that being said, the numbers are usually marketing lies. Even 2ms panels have 10ms in reality. Gray to gray is not an accurate basis for measurement.

What you are actually meaning to talk about is input lag. Now input lag isn't a feature that is advertised in most monitors. The lowest input lag is with CRT monitors.

Tn panels usually have lower input lag than IPS panels. However, IPS panels such as the U2311h have lower input lag than the majority of TN panels.
I do understand response times. Ghosting is a huge issue in gaming, and that is what I was referring to (I guess I should have chosen my words a little more carefully so that EVERYONE understands)... every ms counts, especially in some game over others. If you’re playing a fast-paced action game such as a first person shooter, when you look around quickly you will experience ghosting. This can ruin your overall gaming experience, depending on how severe the ghosting is. The faster the response rate, the less ghosting you will see. I could care less if I have correct colors, I want the images to be displayed on the screen with as little ghosting as possible. I respectfully disagree that response times are simply an inaccurate marketing ploy, because I have seen the difference with my own eyes.
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Yeah looks like it, now its back to $319 though I'm sure you could still get the $250 price is you called them.

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I do understand response times. Ghosting is a huge issue in gaming, and that is what I was referring to (I guess I should have chosen my words a little more carefully so that EVERYONE understands)... every ms counts, especially in some game over others. If you can't see your opponent in time, how are you going to kill him before he kills you?? I could care less if I have correct colors, I want the images to be displayed on the screen with as little ghosting as possible. I respectfully disagree that response times are simply an inaccurate marketing ploy, because I have seen the difference with my own eyes.
Regardless of the amount of ghosting, you still see your opponent in the same amount of time.

If you dislike ghosting THAT much, get a trinitron CRT. 0 ghosting. If you don't care about the ghosting that much, why not just go IPS? I mean, with some of these panels, there might even be less ghosting than some 2ms panels.

That brings me to my other question for you. Why do you insist on using those numbers? 2ms, 5ms, 6ms, 8ms, 16ms. It's all lies. You do NOT know the amount of ghosting before you see the display in action. I've seen plenty of 2ms panels with 2 frames of ghosting while I've seen plenty of panels advertised at 16ms that have almost 0 ghosting. Why do you refer to the numbers in this argument?
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