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as far as budget is concerned.... what kind of budget do I need for a computer that will have a future without borrowing from china and still playing todays games?
RAM - Ripjaws 4GB 1600MHz CL7

CPU - i5-2500K

Mobo 1 - ASUS P8P67-M PRO (REV 3.0) - If you need SLi.

Mobo 2 - GIGABYTE GA-P67A-D3-B3 - if you don't need SLi (far cheaper)

With mobo 1 = $425.
With (cheaper) mobo 2 = $400.


Surely you can get cheaper RAM and motherboard but that would result in a quality decrease.
Edited by p4p3r - 4/17/11 at 3:33pm
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If you just want higher gaming performance your motherboard will suffice for now. AM3 socket CPUs are compatible with your AM2+ motherboard, so I suggest you get a Phenom II X4 965 BE for $140. It will reduce your bottleneck to pretty much nothing, and since it's a Black Edition CPU, it has an unlocked multiplier. If you're gonna do heavy OCing, THEN I'd recommend you get a new motherboard. Stock, no.
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@OP

You need to read up on the TLB Bug. I bet you can solve your problems with some research on it. You're plagued with it with a 9500.

Also, do not overclock that chip. You'll be lucky to get it to 2.3Ghz at best. The early Phenom's did not, I repeat, did not overclock well if at all unless extreme cooling was used. A few people managed to get some chips around 2.5~2.6 and then ran benchmarks only find out the overclock did next to nothing for performance except generate a lot more heat.

Look into the TLB bug. If you need help with links let me know, but here's a good place to start: Here

Forget about the Vista SP1 part, just read up on the TLB bug stuff.
    
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@OP

You need to read up on the TLB Bug. I bet you can solve your problems with some research on it. You're plagued with it with a 9500.

Also, do not overclock that chip. You'll be lucky to get it to 2.3Ghz at best. The early Phenom's did not, I repeat, did not overclock well if at all unless extreme cooling was used. A few people managed to get some chips around 2.5~2.6 and then ran benchmarks only find out the overclock did next to nothing for performance except generate a lot more heat.

Look into the TLB bug. If you need help with links let me know, but here's a good place to start: Here

Forget about the Vista SP1 part, just read up on the TLB bug stuff.
There is, apparently, no option for common overclocking in the BIOS of his motherboard anyway
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If you just want higher gaming performance your motherboard will suffice for now. AM3 socket CPUs are compatible with your AM2+ motherboard, so I suggest you get a Phenom II X4 965 BE for $140. It will reduce your bottleneck to pretty much nothing, and since it's a Black Edition CPU, it has an unlocked multiplier. If you're gonna do heavy OCing, THEN I'd recommend you get a new motherboard. Stock, no.
His motherboard does not support more than 95W TPD, but a PII x4 925 should do it with no OC.
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Those DL's aren't working.
    
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Where is that option?

P.S. I got the Crystal CPUID and am dl'ing winzip to extract the .rar file.
    
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Getting a Phenom II is only going to provide moderate improvement. The real problem is the AM2+ and the DDR2. An upgrade to a DDR3 platform is going to yield the greatest improvements. I agree with what p4p3r is saying, the sandy bridge is going to be your best option at the moment, upgrading an outdated platform like your's is kind of like beating a dead horse.
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Getting a Phenom II is only going to provide moderate improvement. The real problem is the AM2+ and the DDR2. An upgrade to a DDR3 platform is going to yield the greatest improvements. I agree with what p4p3r is saying, the sandy bridge is going to be your best option at the moment, upgrading an outdated platform like your's is kind of like beating a dead horse.
No the real problem is the original Phenom at 2.2

Even the best DDR3 on a Phenom II system will yield MINOR fps improvements over most ddr2 setups.
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