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no, was a mint channel in their own irc server... had to get the server/channel off their community site

and ok... thats still hours of downloading an iso, and i dont want VM software on my desktop at home
Are you limited in hard drive space? If you have a terrabyte those VMs take hardly any space. Hell I have 4-5 VM's on my 750GB drive right now. Including 20-30 ISOs and all my class work.


Either way, It's your decision. But running a VM is how we test things out in the IT field. While it cannot predict all problems with an implementation, it gives a pretty decent indicator of how it will run in an environment. It also allows us to dissect and examine software and OS's without having to install it on a machine.
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Dont bother asking mint or ubuntu communities any questions that actually might involve some CLI or system files...

It really is like talking to a brick wall...

i had some simple questions about repos, and kernel name/version, and a couple other things... no one in the mint irc channel even knew what i was talking about... *facepalm* guess i wont bother wasting time with the LMDE xfce version even though it did look a tad interesting

and yes... im ranting -.- its rather irritating when i ask simple questions i have to rephrase six times and STILL not a single person in an entire irc channel even understands the question...
this is why i use gentoo. the user base is mostly veteran CLI types, you can't really use it without being one or turning into one.

ask for help on ubuntu and if you even get a response, it's "well check gnome control panel system manager and click this and that bla bal" NO. how about the freakin commands and an understanding of what you're talking about.

I just rebuilt gentoo and everything is remarkably stable. I have not had to reboot at all. ubuntu i was rebooting all the time because the pulseaudio thing was so FUBAR. I followed all the guides, got everything RIGHT, and it still ****ed up on me due to bugs on their end. only fix was a reboot, not even # init 1

gentoo FTW .. if you have an i7 and an SSD the compile times are negligible. no crazy use flags and all the packages do work. With some effort, games in wine actually do work almost as good as windows.
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post #23 of 25
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no, was a mint channel in their own irc server... had to get the server/channel off their community site

and ok... thats still hours of downloading an iso, and i dont want VM software on my desktop at home
this is interesting, i went to their "irc" channel on spotchat, that is listed on linux mint site on contact us page, it took me to :

#linuxmint-help

i said hello, several said hello back, the first question i asked was:

does anyone use Linux mint debian edition? i have a few questions about it.

about a half dozen chimed up and said yes, and then told me i should check out:

#linuxmint-debian instead of the #linuxmint-help channel.

i asked the same question i got for responses:

what repositories does LMDE use?

uses debian testing repo's, and a special linux mint repo:

# Default LMDE repositories
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free

you can add any debian repositories you come across, they are compatible, might have issues if you use any ubuntu repositories, they are not always binary compatible.

what kernel does lmde use?

2.6.32-5

is that the debian testing kernel?

yes, it is the current testing kernel.

after that, i went back into the linuxmint-help channel, spent a few hours watching them there, they helped about 15 people who came in with different level of problems, from installing flash to the hdmi being used instead of the sound card. they seemed pretty knowledgeable i threw some noob questions at them, and they were able to answer it with in reason, without resorting to things like "use google" or relying solely on a gui, a lot of the information i received and was given out were terminal instructions.

i'm sure the level of help is different for different parts of the day, later tonight if i'm bored, i might go back in there, and see how it is, but right now, i'm not actually sure what your initial problem was, as i was able to get help and my questions answered quickly and with the required information

all in all, i would say lmde is debian squeeze/testing, with mintmenu and their theme. the core of it just screams to me "debian" and using it does as well. its fairly nice, not something i would use, but might be less intimidating to someone who wants to use debian.
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this is why i use gentoo. the user base is mostly veteran CLI types, you can't really use it without being one or turning into one.

ask for help on ubuntu and if you even get a response, it's "well check gnome control panel system manager and click this and that bla bal" NO. how about the freakin commands and an understanding of what you're talking about.
Hah! That's not the type of discussions I've had on ubuntu on Freenode. You guys must be on some noob network or something!
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there is knowledgeable people in these communities... they are just few and far between...
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