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Additionally the likes of Full Tilt took money out of customers accounts without their knowledge. Once again i ask are you ok with this?
Betting companies aren't banks. That "money" in your account carries no financial worth at all. Sure you can withdraw it, but once your money's "deposited" they can do with it as they please.
    
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If convicted, the defendants could face up to five years in prison for illegal Internet gambling, 20 years for money laundering and 30 years for bank and wire fraud.
Sigh.. a bit too extreme of a punishment.
    
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Because of monopoly. Nothing is really illegal. It's not illegal to sell crack and destroy entire blocks of south los angeles as long as your doing it for some common good like a really cool gun your soldiers need in a war. It's not illegal to gamble. It's just illegal to threaten mobster control over the monopolization of an activity. They are welcome to become legal if they just hire people and train them to shoot other human beings for 8 hours a week. Then it's suddenly legal or something.

I mean seriously you can't keep perverts out of jail if you can't create a job for them at the TSA to grope people and pat them down. People are just going to have to get on a plane and fly to las vegas.

This is all smoke and mirrors. There's not any internet money laundering, because traditional money laundering schemes all work perfectly well. It's just a mind screw creation of "some common good" justification system and control of the mechanisms of legitimization.

IE the banks have money invested in Las Vegas, the banks have money invested in the FBI, the banks have money invested in the airlines and they want to control the suckers by pumping them full of I'm feeling lucky jupiter energy and this is your time for reward jupiter energy and then fleecing them through cold hard saturn by setting all the games to benefit the house over time.

You want to play on a machine that is legally manipulated and programmed to be a "I win you lose" machine in a legally owned las vegas show room. Not play on a illegally manipulated sucker fleecing machine on the internet.

This is why we have the focus effect of law enforcement. Like say I want to move a hundred tons of coke a year. But people keep hassling me about it. So I'll declare a war on drugs and take compelete control and responsibility of drug enforcement and you can just sit back and relax and call me incompetent because there's 8 times more drugs on the planet than before my war declaration. Then when the war is going so badly and I'm lying to you about it. I can do other stupid things. Like I have the ability to seize drug profits and seize drug property. But I'll make you pay 5 bucks to wire money somewhere because it's needed for the war on drugs and to combat "money laundering". This is because even though I can sieze drug money and seize dug profits if I do it too often people won't work for me and trust me to make a legit legal drug operation.

Oh i gotta go practice stabbing people and perfecting murdering people with my aluminimun cop flashlight and MP5. You all be good and don't violently assemble or practice shooting or anything. I want to be able to safely kill you if I get caught doing all the illegal crap I'm doing.

Everybody relax the world was made much safer through monopolization and "regulation" of an activity that is harmful to society. Of course if the regulators don't play ball they'll get fired or set up. Hahahaha.
I want what this guy is smoking.
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I like how anyone who says anything negative about the FBI, or the actions of the US government here is immediately belittled and told to read the source; regardless if they did or not. It's as if the source contains evidence that these poker sites were ripping off consumers or killing babies.

I absolutely read the source and I'm very familiar with what went down in 2006. The legislation was passed to protect domestic casino money. As a result, many politicians who voted on the legislation received massive donations from casino lobbyists. The government essentially manufactured these black market casinos when they passed the legislation. Of course, it wasn't about protecting Americans from themselves. It was about making massive amounts of cash off the same people they were publicly denouncing. Otherwise, it'd be illegal to bet $100,000 on a horse.

Here's an idea: stop legislating morality. Let people throwaway their money if they wish. Let people destroy their own bodies if they wish. Stop spending billions of dollars a year on enforcing pathetic "morality laws" such as this.
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well, there goes my play money on Full Tilt...no loss to me!
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Because of monopoly. Nothing is really illegal. It's not illegal to sell crack and destroy entire blocks of south los angeles as long as your doing it for some common good like a really cool gun your soldiers need in a war. It's not illegal to gamble. It's just illegal to threaten mobster control over the monopolization of an activity. They are welcome to become legal if they just hire people and train them to shoot other human beings for 8 hours a week. Then it's suddenly legal or something.

I mean seriously you can't keep perverts out of jail if you can't create a job for them at the TSA to grope people and pat them down. People are just going to have to get on a plane and fly to las vegas.

This is all smoke and mirrors. There's not any internet money laundering, because traditional money laundering schemes all work perfectly well. It's just a mind screw creation of "some common good" justification system and control of the mechanisms of legitimization.

IE the banks have money invested in Las Vegas, the banks have money invested in the FBI, the banks have money invested in the airlines and they want to control the suckers by pumping them full of I'm feeling lucky jupiter energy and this is your time for reward jupiter energy and then fleecing them through cold hard saturn by setting all the games to benefit the house over time.

You want to play on a machine that is legally manipulated and programmed to be a "I win you lose" machine in a legally owned las vegas show room. Not play on a illegally manipulated sucker fleecing machine on the internet.

This is why we have the focus effect of law enforcement. Like say I want to move a hundred tons of coke a year. But people keep hassling me about it. So I'll declare a war on drugs and take compelete control and responsibility of drug enforcement and you can just sit back and relax and call me incompetent because there's 8 times more drugs on the planet than before my war declaration. Then when the war is going so badly and I'm lying to you about it. I can do other stupid things. Like I have the ability to seize drug profits and seize drug property. But I'll make you pay 5 bucks to wire money somewhere because it's needed for the war on drugs and to combat "money laundering". This is because even though I can sieze drug money and seize dug profits if I do it too often people won't work for me and trust me to make a legit legal drug operation.

Oh i gotta go practice stabbing people and perfecting murdering people with my aluminimun cop flashlight and MP5. You all be good and don't violently assemble or practice shooting or anything. I want to be able to safely kill you if I get caught doing all the illegal crap I'm doing.

Everybody relax the world was made much safer through monopolization and "regulation" of an activity that is harmful to society. Of course if the regulators don't play ball they'll get fired or set up. Hahahaha.
Yeah man... like the corperations man... and like the war on drugs and gambling man... man. Man. Like the corperations.


I'm not sure what hellish binge you've gone on, but you should either lay off or disconnect your internet connection beforehand .
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Yeah man... like the corperations man... and like the war on drugs and gambling man... man. Man. Like the corperations.


I'm not sure what hellish binge you've gone on, but you should either lay off or disconnect your internet connection beforehand .
Nice portrait of me. Unfortunately this isn't the frikkin carnival and you are not a highly skilled caracture artist pulling in the big bucks for distorting features.
You couldn't bear false witness about a person if they handed you a hard drive full of information about themselves with instructions on how to distort it into some kind of believable stereotype. You've created an entirely new bottom layer on the disagreement heiarchy. Clueless ad homenim.
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Because of monopoly. Nothing is really illegal. It's not illegal to sell crack and destroy entire blocks of south los angeles as long as your doing it for some common good like a really cool gun your soldiers need in a war. It's not illegal to gamble. It's just illegal to threaten mobster control over the monopolization of an activity. They are welcome to become legal if they just hire people and train them to shoot other human beings for 8 hours a week. Then it's suddenly legal or something.

I mean seriously you can't keep perverts out of jail if you can't create a job for them at the TSA to grope people and pat them down. People are just going to have to get on a plane and fly to las vegas.

This is all smoke and mirrors. There's not any internet money laundering, because traditional money laundering schemes all work perfectly well. It's just a mind screw creation of "some common good" justification system and control of the mechanisms of legitimization.

IE the banks have money invested in Las Vegas, the banks have money invested in the FBI, the banks have money invested in the airlines and they want to control the suckers by pumping them full of I'm feeling lucky jupiter energy and this is your time for reward jupiter energy and then fleecing them through cold hard saturn by setting all the games to benefit the house over time.

You want to play on a machine that is legally manipulated and programmed to be a "I win you lose" machine in a legally owned las vegas show room. Not play on a illegally manipulated sucker fleecing machine on the internet.

This is why we have the focus effect of law enforcement. Like say I want to move a hundred tons of coke a year. But people keep hassling me about it. So I'll declare a war on drugs and take compelete control and responsibility of drug enforcement and you can just sit back and relax and call me incompetent because there's 8 times more drugs on the planet than before my war declaration. Then when the war is going so badly and I'm lying to you about it. I can do other stupid things. Like I have the ability to seize drug profits and seize drug property. But I'll make you pay 5 bucks to wire money somewhere because it's needed for the war on drugs and to combat "money laundering". This is because even though I can sieze drug money and seize dug profits if I do it too often people won't work for me and trust me to make a legit legal drug operation.

Oh i gotta go practice stabbing people and perfecting murdering people with my aluminimun cop flashlight and MP5. You all be good and don't violently assemble or practice shooting or anything. I want to be able to safely kill you if I get caught doing all the illegal crap I'm doing.

Everybody relax the world was made much safer through monopolization and "regulation" of an activity that is harmful to society. Of course if the regulators don't play ball they'll get fired or set up. Hahahaha.
Dude... how many copies of 'Catcher in the Rye' do you own?

OT: Can't say I'm surprised that this finally happened but I doubt much will come from it. From what I read on the subject a few months back a lot of people seem to think the government is close to regulating a legal online poker system in the US, in so doing they'd ban the current online sites from operating here anyway because they're "breaking the law." To me it just sounds like the government not willing to admit that they want to tax the crap out of online gaming.
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Dude... how many copies of 'Catcher in the Rye' do you own?

OT: Can't say I'm surprised that this finally happened but I doubt much will come from it. From what I read on the subject a few months back a lot of people seem to think the government is close to regulating a legal online poker system in the US, in so doing they'd ban the current online sites from operating here anyway because they're "breaking the law." To me it just sounds like the government not willing to admit that they want to tax the crap out of online gaming.
I agree...I wonder when will it be "illegal" to purchase goods online from outside the country? Or when will there be some kinda federal sales tax on items purchased online from other states when there's no state sales tax imposed.

Bottom Line: If there's money exchanging hands the gov't wants their cut.
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