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So I got it running yesterday. FreeBSD is definitely faster, feels about the same as Arch,though boot time is still kind bad, I have not yet looked into ways to speed up though.

Overall it's a bit more difficult then Arch, it feels more like Gentoo your right and like gentoo I'm not sure the value in work vs performance is really worth it. I'll keep working with it though always good to learn more things.

freebsd does have a large amount of binary packages, you don't have to compile anything from source using ports.

pkg_add -r if i'm not mistaken will download and install a binary package.

cd /usr/ports// (takes you to the ports files)
make install clean (will download, compile, install, and then remove the unneeded files.)

there are other tools you can use like portaudit and portupgrade to keep things up to date and aware of any security problems or updates.

about the most important thing to remember is keeping the ports collection up to date. there is a lot more to it than i've given, as this is a simple example smile.gif

gentoo and *bsd share a lot in common, due to the fact the founder of gentoo used *bsd for a few years cause there was a problem with gentoo or his computer, don't remember the exact story, but he fell in love with the concept of the ports collection, so when he came back to working on gentoo, he developed portage smile.gif

linux for the most part does owe a lot to bsd, as it was already a very mature and stable OS (more or less complete as well) by time linux was just learning to walk smile.gif
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This thread is tempting me to try freebsd again. I used it on a desktop rolleyes.gif years ago and liked the way it was put together, system wise it was well organized and felt a tad more responsive than gentoo. I use archlinux these days, but I do like portage, theres something nice about compiling from code and building your own OS just for your needs wink.gif
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FreeBSD is simply awesome. I've used it a fair bit. I don't find it anymore complex than Arch (just a bit different). In fact I find a fair amount of things easier. In general most programs can be installed simply with pkg_add like so:

pkg_add -r opera (this will install opera web browser which works surprisingly well in BSD)

However, it really wasn't purposed to be a desktop OS. It isn't the best of friends with programs such as flash, and some programs that you have grown used to in Linux will not be compatible with BSD (but that can be circumvented at times with a compatibility layer). But don't let that stop you, because it is really fast, really stable and really powerful (plus its fun to learn new operating systems).

BSD distributions are slightly more unique than Linux distributions and tend to each have their own unique kernel, userland utilities and applications associated with them (in contrast to the approach used by Linux distros to utilize the Linux kernel and GNU software). These are FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and Dragonfly BSD. Others such as GhostBSD or PC-BSD are actually just FreeBSD with a DE and some apps baked into the install. So as to why PC-BSD was really slow, its probably just the sheer amount of added stuff to try and make it more user friendly.

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What filesystem does PCBSD use by default? I know that when I used to tinker with OpenSolaris (not BSD, but a Unix), it used ZFS. ZFS is an awesome filesystem but it's also a RAM hog and doesn't perform as well as ext3/4 on some types of operations. I mention this because some BSD's I think now use ZFS.

Most BSD installs still use UFS2. ZFS is a viable alternative in FreeBSD. Not sure about OpenBSD or NetBSD. The reason OpenSolaris (R.I.P. Sweet Prince) used ZFS is because it was developed by Sun specifically for it.

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FreeBSD is simply awesome. I've used it a fair bit. I don't find it anymore complex than Arch (just a bit different). In fact I find a fair amount of things easier. In general most programs can be installed simply with pkg_add like so:

pkg_add -r opera (this will install opera web browser which works surprisingly well in BSD)

However, it really wasn't purposed to be a desktop OS. It isn't the best of friends with programs such as flash, and some programs that you have grown used to in Linux will not be compatible with BSD (but that can be circumvented at times with a compatibility layer). But don't let that stop you, because it is really fast, really stable and really powerful (plus its fun to learn new operating systems).

BSD distributions are slightly more unique than Linux distributions and tend to each have their own unique kernel, userland utilities and applications associated with them (in contrast to the approach used by Linux distros to utilize the Linux kernel and GNU software). These are FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and Dragonfly BSD. Others such as GhostBSD or PC-BSD are actually just FreeBSD with a DE and some apps baked into the install. So as to why PC-BSD was really slow, its probably just the sheer amount of added stuff to try and make it more user friendly.

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BSD's aren't really distributions of each other, they are separate but entire OS's out of the gate, they each seem to target a specific niche market, out of all of them, i would honestly say FreeBSD is the most desktop geared one.

the BSD's also have a few more advantages over their linux distro cousins, they are much better documented, usually more stable, follow very rigid guidelines for their development, and really don't care about the market share their OS has, as long as it is the best in their eyes...

I've been playing with freebsd for the last few days in vmware, i gotta say i like it, but i think my head will explode if i try to cram anymore OS stuff in it...caught myself in linux tonight trying to execute some *bsd style commands smile.gif (they share a lot, but the differences are subtle enough for me to go googling smile.gif)
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I've been playing with freebsd for the last few days in vmware, i gotta say i like it, but i think my head will explode if i try to cram anymore OS stuff in it...caught myself in linux tonight trying to execute some *bsd style commands smile.gif (they share a lot, but the differences are subtle enough for me to go googling smile.gif)

Haha, I know what you mean, there's something addictive about it once you start, right? I'm sort of blessed/cursed with a crap memory though, so I'm always googling stuff lol
That, and I've never really got to grips with the Linux shell (with grep, sed, and stuff like that...even pipes are a bit iffy redface.gif)
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Yeah I've still be working with it, now that I know a bit more it's a bit easier. I'm still not seeing the major benefit over Linux thouh, on a desktop anyway.
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Yeah I've still be working with it, now that I know a bit more it's a bit easier. I'm still not seeing the major benefit over Linux thouh, on a desktop anyway.

some might disagree, i'm not gonna be one of them smile.gif

to some extent *BSD is much more mature than linux is, they have a solid team that develop the kernel, tools and userland as one, it is better documented, and ports has probably more strict standards than any package manager i've ever seen.

i think it more or less really depends which one you know better, linux is better well known, has a larger developer pool (even tho most of what is built for linux could be "ported" over to BSD and vice versa), people often find the general architecture of linux more pleasing i guess you could say.
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Yeah had I started with bsd I may have felt the opposite. It's definitely less easy to find answers to bsd questions vs Linux questions...less friendly for noobs like myself.
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bsd is designed, linux is grown

thats really the only way to put it... i think bsd is cool, but i dont wanna use it on a desktop smile.gif openbsd makes a sweet server, but it really doesnt have advantages over centos... ill stick to linux unless there is some sweet bsd certification that gains huge popularity in the coming years tongue.gif
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