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I'm not going to quote, feeling lazy sorry.

1) I said not that much more than a year. Win7 supported trim October 2009. It is currently April. 1.5 years. March 2010 intel added ssd + raid ability, it took 5 months for that alone. That was really my point, the pace of technology.

2) This will be a blend of point 1 and your point. SLI (though not called SLI, nor admittedly the same as its current form) was introduced by 3dfx in it's voodoo series in something like 1998? That's 13 years ago. So, yeah, that's kind of a matured platform. Plenty of time to be able to go from 2 bridged video cards, to 4. Not to mention that GPUs are without a doubt the largest and highest profile segment of the enthusiast market with the clearest gains and the most profitability (as well as the smallest number of manufacturers, 2).
See my point from before, there is neither the time, nor the push of the same magnitude amongst HD enthusiasts. SSDs are a very very niche market at the moment.

Anyway, kind of re-treading the same water, but I wouldn't expect much out of raid TRIM until SSD prices drop and there is a larger consumer market for them, or some intel team figures it out as an aside.
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I'm not going to quote, feeling lazy sorry.
Its okay lol

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1) I said not that much more than a year. Win7 supported trim October 2009. It is currently April. 1.5 years. March 2010 intel added ssd + raid ability, it took 5 months for that alone. That was really my point, the pace of technology.
You're right, it was released Oct 2009 or 1.5 years, seems like longer though. Still, it seems to me that if it was only a matter of updating the software it would've been done by now unless it was a monumentally difficult task (which is what I was saying earlier). You said it was an architectural problem, which I assume means there is a hardware aspect to it as well?

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2) This will be a blend of point 1 and your point. SLI (though not called SLI, nor admittedly the same as its current form) was introduced by 3dfx in it's voodoo series in something like 1998? That's 13 years ago. So, yeah, that's kind of a matured platform. Plenty of time to be able to go from 2 bridged video cards, to 4. Not to mention that GPUs are without a doubt the largest and highest profile segment of the enthusiast market with the clearest gains and the most profitability (as well as the smallest number of manufacturers, 2).
See my point from before, there is neither the time, nor the push of the same magnitude amongst HD enthusiasts. SSDs are a very very niche market at the moment.
I used a bad analogy, but I see your point. Quad SLI/CFX was just a modified version of tech that already existed while TRIM is totally new. Is that a decent summary?


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Anyway, kind of re-treading the same water, but I wouldn't expect much out of raid TRIM until SSD prices drop and there is a larger consumer market for them, or some intel team figures it out as an aside.
Honestly I kind of expect the next gen of southbridges and RAID cards to support it, but I base those expectations on little to no knowledge of how it works lol.
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I wasn't implying they should have released an update for the drivers the day after TRIM came out. How long has TRIM been out again? Long enough for them to...

"figure out how to do it, how their hardware will pass those commands, how the software will interface with the OS to pass those commands and how to properly code those commands in the drivers themselves"

IMO
Im sure there was a big thread about this issue on OCZ web site, OCZ were saying why should they spend time researching this and saw it as down to Microsoft to factor support into OS's. And Microsoft said it lays with the SSD manufacturers = STALEMATE with OCZ anyhows
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