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post #1 of 19
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Long story short, my mobo doesn't function so I need to get a new one.

I already have a Case, CPU, HDD, & Optical Drives. It'll be running Win7 64x.

My budget is about $500 for a Mobo, RAM, aftermarket Heatsink, and a GPU.

Here's my case and CPU:

Case:
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Compucase Case with USB 3.0 and Black Interior

CPU:
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX

My existing PSU that I've had for a few years:
Rosewill Xtreme Series RX850-D-B 850W

I do already have this G.Skill RAM but it isn't compatible in most of the mobos I've looked at:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL

I had a poor experience with ASUS with my first two being DOA but it won't stop me from purchasing ASUS again. There's so many Pros out there that I've seen that I really want to have those postive experiences. I don't have a limit as far as the Brand of mobo.

Even if it has integrated graphics, I'm not going to use them since we all know how much poor performance they have.

Looking to use the computer for mainly online gaming (think SCII, Crysis 2, WoW) while being able to utilize an HD movie on a second screen.

I thought about this mobo, but it's not set in stone:
GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD5 AM3 AMD

This one is essentially the same one has I already have except it has USB 3.0.

ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3

Nearly identical to the FXA-UD5 but at a lower price...

GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H AM3 AMD 890GX

I had thought about this one but quite frankly it requires expertise that's beyond what I have (makes me sad) and we're not even sure yet if it'll be Bull Dozer compatible:

ASUS Crosshair IV Formula AM3 AMD 890FX

That's it for my current ideas for a mobo.

For the GPU, I really only have ideas but not completely certain..
SAPPHIRE 100283-3L Radeon HD 5770

The heatsink I'm thinking of going with this this one, as it is small enough to not overlap into the DIMM slots:
ZALMAN 9500A-LED 92mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler

I already have Thermal Paste (Artic Silver 5), so no concerns with getting that.

Any idea'ers or thoughts? I'd love to know!
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post #2 of 19
That budget for just video card mobo and cooler could easily fit a high end ASUS mobo with a decent case and a GTX 560 Ti. Your RAM will be fine on any AMD motherboard even if it's not on compatibility lists (ignore those most of the time)

I you're looking for Bulldozer compatibility, best choices are the high end ASUS boards (incl. CHIV Formula) as they will be BIOS-compatible

I would take:
Galaxy 560 Ti - $230, $200 AR
ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 - $140
Zalman Performa CNPS10X - $31.20 + s/h
Total cost is in the $400 range and you win
post #3 of 19
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What's the point of the mini HDMI? I have a 10' and 15' HDMI cords, if they aren't able to be used in the GPU it wouldn't be helping me.

For the ASUS Crosshair Formula IV, it's above my technical skills. A lot of people were reporting North Bridge cooling problems.

It'd be nice to get into the Bull Dozer realm but I do not use anything that would require 8 cores, though of course future proofing is something I've always kept in mind.
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post #4 of 19
He already has the m4a89gtd PRO, not usb3 version. Is there another difference in these boards? I think it's the same.
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post #5 of 19
yeah, the older rev. of the crosshair IV had problems with the chipset's heatsink. It was quite easy to solve the problem, but there is a new rev. doing fine.
Edited by otaku_ex - 4/16/11 at 3:01pm
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post #6 of 19
I don't understand why you'd want a further upgrade on mobo then - you're already on a great motherboard that does have AM3+/Bulldozer support
You should try RMA-ing your existing mobo before going straight to the new one, unless you need a mobo right away
post #7 of 19
Didn't know that m4a89GTD will support bulldozer, I thought only 890fx boards were going to have that option.

I'm not american, so I have no idea of newegg policies. He told me, that he bought that board in november and he can't RMA to newegg. He's also confused with dealing with asus.

Isn't there an asus office in the USA? The process should be quite fast in that case.
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post #8 of 19
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I'll honestly try but I'm one of those 'people' that if it doesn't work, throw it a way and start over. Money is merely a means to an end. While I'm not rich, I'm not poor either and it doesn't hurt my feelings to throw this one away.

Quite frankly I think all of my pent up frustration would be released if I used my baseball bat to smash the mobo into pieces. But you have to think logically about this instead of those annoying things we call emotions.

Then after weeks of talking with ASUS they'll have me do a million things that will surely not work and then they'll send me another failure replacement or a 'repair' or a refurbished item.

Or I could spend $100 - 200 and in a week get something that might actually work and not have to wait weeks upon weeks for something to fail.
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post #9 of 19
So you want to get rid of your frustration destroying the board. Ha ha, I think you are a happy punk.

The asus 890FX board that I have is priced almost the same as the 890gx version. There are big differences, 8+2 vs 6+2. Quite crappy design as well in my case, I had to attach two 60mm fans to work fine @4GHz. The vrm gets too hot and it lowers cpu voltage along with cpu multiplier. Of course my h70 is part responsible, I'm going to do a mod these days and put the radiator outside to go further than 4GHz.
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post #10 of 19
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Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post
one, unless you need a mobo right away
For me it's not being able to handle 2 entire months without a computer on my own. My patience is hitting it's limits after I put in a new CPU and the dang thing still didn't even beep at me.

All I do is play my 360 and get bored in an hour then I will read for a bit, get bored... I just go to sleep because I have nothing else to do.

I really *want* a computer that works. If you can't tell, my personal desire is starting to outweigh the logic of the situation.
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