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Almost everybody on OCN will tell you to avoid Thermaltake water cooling gear like the plague.

Otherwise, everything you picked out should work fine. Not the best performing parts, but sufficient nonetheless. Look at the XSPC Rasa kits, too: http://jab-tech.com/XSPC-Rasa-750-RS240-CPU-watercooling-kit-pr-4753.html

http://jab-tech.com/XSPC-Rasa-750-RX240-CPU-watercooling-kit-pr-4779.html
    
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Thermaleak..... I have read and saw people say it.

The only XSPC's on Amazon are a 120 and a 360.

Problem is it really jumps the prices up and remember, I am using Amazon because I want to use my card.

I see a few good pumps on there for a little over $70. I do not need help with that. I know which pumps are good from a few threads on here.

What about saving a few bucks by at least buying thermaltakes reservoir? Should I just get something like this instead:


It hides the pump if I get a D5 or MCP655.

Why should I mount it on the back or the side versus using the top mounts that are already ready for a 240 RAD?

I have seen people mount a 360 on both sides of the hard drive bay, but I think that is ugly and will rob my airflow to other components. Here is a look at someone who did it though. Appears to fit well.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1421/6/
Edited by BWG - 4/17/11 at 7:43am
 
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Thermaleak..... I have read and saw people say it.

The only XSPC's on Amazon are a 120 and a 360.

Problem is it really jumps the prices up and remember, I am using Amazon because I want to use my card.

I see a few good pumps on there for a little over $70. I do not need help with that. I know which pumps are good from a few threads on here.

What about saving a few bucks by at least buying thermaltakes reservoir? Should I just get something like this instead:
Amazon.com: PrimoChill Myriad D5 Dual Bay Reservoir / Pump Housing (D5 / MCP655 / PMP-450) - Clear: Computer & Accessories

It hides the pump if I get a D5 or MCP655.

Why should I mount it on the back or the side versus using the top mounts that are already ready for a 240 RAD?

I have seen people mount a 360 on both sides of the hard drive bay, but I think that is ugly and will rob my airflow to other components. Here is a look at someone who did it though. Appears to fit well.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1421/6/
Oh, well if the case has ready mounting brackets, jobs a gooden, do that.


So far as that reservoir goes, it does look good, I'll give you that, but the pump isn't going to make a massive difference in the performance of the loop (I'll explain at the bottom, it's a bit long winded). AKA ~ you could get a much cheaper pump, decent rad, decent waterblock for half the cost and still get a similar performance system.


I just had a look at amazon for liquid cooling and if I'm honest it doesn't look good I mean maybe I'm in the wrong section or something, but I just searched for "laing" in electrical and one pump came up.

If you can go to a different online shop I think it would be preferable.




(ignore this if you understand about increased flow not lowering temps)
The pump makes little difference because:

When you increase the flow rate, after the water becomes turbulent (in most pc loops this is apparently approximately 1 gallon per minute, 4.5 litres a minute or 270 litres per hour) the heat transfer doesn't change much.

On top of this, increased flow wont affect the dT of your loop either, because the coolant doesn't change more than 0.5oC around the whole loop, increasing the flow by 100%, would only decrease your effective water temps by 0.25oC (rough maths).

AND each molecule of water will spend the same amount of time in a given piece of equipment in a minute. That is to say, if a water molecule spends 10 seconds in the radiator in a minute, if you double the flow, it will pass through in half the time but twice as many times, so due to that and the other two reasons, increased flow doesn't really make much difference.
    
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I ended up going with an EK H30 Supreme kit and added a

plus ($32 used) for my GPU.

It should be a decent start. I am not looking to set any records.

Last question, there is a 120 RAD that comes with the kit. Should I just sell it off?
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I ended up going with an EK H30 Supreme kit and added a 240 RAD plus MCW80 ($32 used) for my GPU.

It should be a decent start. I am not looking to set any records.

Last question, there is a 120 RAD that comes with the kit. Should I just sell it off?
Looks like a good kit. If you have room to mount the EK 120 rad, you might as well use it... I doubt it'll have a massive impact on your temps, but it'd certainly help.
    
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I am mounting the 240 on the top so I could mount the 120 on the back or inside. How should I loop it in? Would it be a good idea to loop it in between the cpu and gpu or should I keep the RADs hooked together?
 
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I am mounting the 240 on the top so I could mount the 120 on the back or inside. How should I loop it in? Would it be a good idea to loop it in between the cpu and gpu or should I keep the RADs hooked together?
Conventional wisdom is that loop order doesn't matter (aside from having your res before your pump, haha). Initially you might find one arrangement would give you lower temps, but as you ran under load temps would essentially line out. So do whatever makes your tubing easiest to route.
    
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post #18 of 20
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I am going to try this loop first and measure temps at idle/load

pump/cpu/gpu/120rad/240rad/res

I will try this one next

pump/cpu/120rad/gpu/240rad/res

Top mounting the 240 outside, case has mounts for it already.

Back mounting the 120 outside the exhaust

Or.... do you think I should just mount it all inside since my case is mesh? Saves a little tubing and less stress on my pump which may need upgraded later anyway along with the res.
 
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I'd just mount it all internally.. looks a lot cleaner and is easier to deal with imo. You might actually get better temps having it externally mounted, though, so it's really up to you.
    
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I did external first and did not like all the extra tubing so I somewhat mounted it internally. It is still outside really. I will post some pics in a minute. My phone is updating. Finally, copy/paste is on my Samsung Focus.
 
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