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Noctua D14 + i7 930, high temps & voltage?

post #1 of 7
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Hi all,

I'm running my i7 930 @ stock speeds with a Sabertooth X58 motherboard, everything is left to default (I didn't change anything from the BIOS's settings), some stuff do seem a bit off (I'm a newbie to overclocking so I'm not sure):

Idle temps: 30-35
100% load temps: 57-62

Screenshot with lots of details:



What's weird is that it says the speed is 2900Mhz, I thought 930's stock speed should be 2800. Also, 1.25v seems high for stock speeds or is it supposed to be like this by default?

If the voltage/speed numbers are abnormal, does that mean I have a bad 930 or something? I was hoping that my first overclock would be to get this thing to 4.0+ Ghz =(

My Noctua D14 was installed using it's stock fans and I'm running this in a HAF X case, I built this PC in Nov 2010 (my first build ever) and I decided to start overclocking it now that's why I'm concerned about the temps. I think I did an OK job with the wire management since the case was easy to work with, I am not sure about the thermal paste application though, I think I could have done that better (I used the small line in the middle of CPU method, I might have used a tiny bit more paste than I should have).

Any help would be really appreciated.
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500GB WD Caviar black Windows 7 Premium 64bit 22" HP 1680x1050/ 50" 1080p Pioneer Kuro 9G Corsair AX850 
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Cooler Master HAF X 
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post #2 of 7
What are your ambient temps btw? Your load temps seem a bit high, but your idle looks alright, depending on ambient.

Also, when installing your heatsink, what method did you use to apply the therml paste?

EDIT: didn't see you write that you used a line. Have you tried reseating the heatsink? Might want to consider it. Also what thermal paste are you using?
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post #3 of 7
Those load temps are definitely high for stock settings, I'd try a reseat and see if it helps and maybe take a picture of what your previous seating looked like. Also it'd be helpful to know your ambient or room temps like Swift Castiel said.

My 930 at 4GHz hits 70-72C in LinX but my room is a tiny space heater.
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Thread Starter 
Thanks for the quick response both of you, a bit more info:

- Ambient temps: around 22-24 degrees when testing the CPU, when my room's really cold the CPU's idle temps can be as low as 24-27, but that's not my normal/usual room temp.
- I turned off Intel's turbo mode in the BIOS and the max voltage is 1.2 now @ stock 2800 Mhz speed, 100% load temps are around 53-58 now
- My case is is in open space and well ventilated and I'm using all of the stock fans.
- I used Noctua's NT-H1 thermal compound that came with the heat sink.

Is it normal for the the CPU's voltage to be set high by default and I have to lower it myself or does it indicate a problem? In the Sabertooth's BIOS settings under "CPU Voltage Control" it says Manual and under "CPU Voltage" it says Auto, those were set like that by default.

Sorry for the noob question, but I'm assuming reseating the heat sink means that I basically remove it, clean the old paste with isopropyl alcohol then apply a new paste and remount to hopefully get it right this time, right? If so, I haven't done that yet, will do so if necessary and the problem ain't voltage/settings related, will try to take pictures too.
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post #5 of 7
Yes, reseating means removing the heatsink and reapplying the thermal paste and then mounting it again.

I recommend you use the pea method to apply the TIM (thermal paste). Basically, put a blob the size of a pea in the centre of the CPU and then mount the heatsink. Make sure you tighten it equally.

So like, tighten the top left screw maybe 3 turns => bottom right 3 turns => top right 3 turns => Bottom left 3 turns. Rinse and repeat until the heatsink is finger tight (it should not be mounted so tightly that the motherboard flexes, finger tight is all you need. You do this to try and ensure as even seating as possible. So that the TIM spreads nice and evenly across the CPU.
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post #6 of 7
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Thanks for the details, specially about evenly screwing the heatsink to the motherboard, I didn't do it like on my first try. What about putting a blob in the middle of the CPU then spreading the paste with a credit card evenly? This from what I've read seems to be an old technique, but is there any reason why it's not recommended to be used with quad core CPUs?

Also, is applying the thermal paste on the base of the heatsink instead of the CPU an option?

Just want to know what kind of methods I can try if I failed on my 2nd attempt as well lol
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post #7 of 7
The credit card method is an old technique indeed..can leave air bubbles and other imperfections.

Best way to go is a grain of rice sized blob of paste in the center of the CPU, and let the heatsink naturally spread the paste.

The paste that comes with the D-14 (NT-H1) is good stuff so you should be in good hands with that.
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