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Hi everyone, my 1st thread in overclock.net

I've been with this rig for nearly 4 years and now the dilemma starts...

So far I've been playing games such as Bad Company 2, Crysis, WOW, COD - World at War, on maximum detail without low frame rate issues. Now, for the 1st time I had to run a game on medium graphics to keep my frames at 25-30 struggling sometimes down to 18 (Rift: Planes of Telara).That made me think that I am reaching a point where I should either spend a descent amount of money and get a brand new system or spend minimum and upgrade...

My rig:

Motherboard: Gigabyte X48T-DQ6
CPU: Q6600 @ 2.4Ghz (stock cooling)
RAM: Corsair DDR3 1333 4GB (2x 2GB dual channel)
Video Card: Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT DDR3 (Zalman)
Power Supply: Glacial Power 750W
HDD: Samsung 500 GB SATA 300
OS: Windows 7 64bit Professional

My plan: spend 1/3 of the investment of a brand new computer that I've been considering to put together ($2000), and buy the following upgrades:

Two AMD Radeon 6850 (crossfire) - ($200 ea)

Corsair Hydro Series H70 (for OC cooling) - ($160)

Corsair Performance 3 SSD HD 64Gb - ($190)


Now lets go to some facts:

I am not a frame rate benchmark maniac. I love playing my games with high quality and descent frame rate (min 35).

Rift will be the game I'll play most of my free time (not a lot), so I am not too worried about other games that may be heavier in graphics.

I am aware that the Z68 is coming possibly in May. I am not willing to be Intel's laboratory rat and have headackes trying the new technology without some sort of backing that it will be reliable. With that being said I am looking at another two years with my existing computer until I finally get my brand new system.

Now my questions:

1- What is your opinion regarding my plan? (any opinion is welcome!)
2- If I manage to OC my CPU @ 3.0GHz or higher, could it still become a bottle neck?

Cheers,

Allan
Edited by helipilot - 4/17/11 at 3:13am
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If you are going to play games like GTA4 or just cause 2 a Q6600 wont really cut it.
    
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Buy a decent aftermarket cooler and OC the chip to 3.5-3.6 GHz, then buy a better graphics card. It will be cheaper and you will be able to play the games without any effort.
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Hey Kirby1, I already play GTAIV with my current setup, no problems at all... It just gets a little slow when it rains but 95% of the time it's very consistent.

Hi te0o, that is exactly what I proposed on my email, do you think the parts I've chosen are good enough?
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Hmmm... If you have these 2000$, you'd better invest them in an entirely new machine. But if you want to save some money, you'd better stay with the good old Q600 and buy a cooler and graphics card. I think two 6950(you can unlock them to 6970) will be bottlenecked by the Quad. In my opinion, you should go with one 6950, which you can unlock to 6970 and OC the CPU to 3.6 with the H70(it depends on the revision of the chip, if it's B3 you can only achieve 3.0-3.1 Ghz). This way you'll be able to play the games without a problem and you can continue use LGA775 till LGA2011 comes out.
Edited by te0o - 4/17/11 at 3:04am
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Ok, so you reckon that the CPU would get clogged by the crossfire... Even when OCed to 3.6 GHz? My MOBO is excellent for OC and was designed for crossfire...

I've attached a copy of my cmd image with the info you mentioned...

It doesn't seem to be the revision B3 you said. (I hope it's the OC friendly one)

thanks for your help dude

PS: The video cards in question would be the HD6850, not the 6950.

Edited by helipilot - 4/17/11 at 3:15am
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helipilot

Use CPU-Z to see what revision your CPU is. It's either B3 or the better and newer G0.


http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html





Not all G0's will overclock stably to 3.6GHz on air. I have the impression that most of them do not. But the most common clock would be in the 3.4 -3.5GHz range.

You have a very nice mobo there, and should be able to take your Q6600 as far as it goes. It don't see anything wrong with you overclock it to 3.2 - 3.6GHz range and try out 2x 6850 in Crossfire. I think that would be a nice upgrade.
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don't buy the crappy corsair cooler and you don't need an SSD for smoother gaming at all. Get an i5 2500k and a cheap p67 motherboard and you will see substantial improvements in minimum frame-rates/ max frame-rates and everything in general. you don't even need an aftermarket cooler.
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Originally Posted by th3illusiveman View Post
don't buy the crappy corsair cooler and you don't need an SSD for smoother gaming at all. Get an i5 2500k and a cheap p67 motherboard and you will see substantial improvements in minimum frame-rates/ max frame-rates and everything in general. you don't even need an aftermarket cooler.
An SSD improves the Windows Experience and game loading times by huge amounts. SSD's is a must for any enthusiast in these days.

Also, if he buy a better cooler, SSD and new grahics cards he can take these components with him, for when he upgrades later down the road.
Edited by turrican9 - 4/17/11 at 3:39am
    
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PS: The video cards in question would be the HD6850, not the 6950.
I'm sorry, my mistake. Well, if the cards are 6850, I do not see a problem with the CPU, make the Corssfire and OC the CPU and you will achieve the best results.
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