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Hi Turrican9, thanks for your input dude. I've just checked my cpu-z and it is revision G0. (yay!)

Honestly, I don't mind running it at approx 3.4GHz if maximum achieved. That's quite a lot extra.

I was expecting someone to support my idea as I've done a lot of research on this subject. I am quite open minded though for anything as I know I can't cover all areas + my knowledge in OC is close to none.

Now that I've got your attention, do you think that the H70 is a good enough cooler for this setup or do you think I should get something else?

Also, is the SSD a good idea? I've rad a lot of technical material saying that fast HDD makes a huge difference.

Cheers.
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Haha... just read your reply, thanks mate!
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If you want to save some money invest in a cooler and card as stated above, my sig rig In rift using radeon pro pulls 20-60+ fps, 20 in sanctum during peak hours, it only seems moderately effected by my cpu stock clock to overclocked..if you do decide on a whole new setup though and use crossfire for now get radeon pro and set up a profile for rift...its the only way I am able to keep consistent crossfire scaling up until they fix the drivers
    
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Hi Te0o, no worries I thought it would be the case, I appreciate your input.

I'll make sure I came back with the result of the upgrade/OC.

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Hi Turrican9, thanks for your input dude. I've just checked my cpu-z and it is revision G0. (yay!)

Honestly, I don't mind running it at approx 3.4GHz if maximum achieved. That's quite a lot extra.

I was expecting someone to support my idea as I've done a lot of research on this subject. I am quite open minded though for anything as I know I can't cover all areas + my knowledge in OC is close to none.

Now that I've got your attention, do you think that the H70 is a good enough cooler for this setup or do you think I should get something else?

Also, is the SSD a good idea? I've rad a lot of technical material saying that fast HDD makes a huge difference.

Cheers.
SSD's makes a world of difference VS Harddrives. You can't even compare them. H70 is very strong. 3.6GHz, or even more is very likely with your Q6600 G0, your high-end mobo and that cooler.

All these factors in combination with a good SSD will give you a blazing fast system. And a Q6600 in the 3.4 - 3.6GHz + range should be good for a 6850 Crossfire setup.

Your system with a good SSD will feel much faster than a Sandy 2500K at 5GHz with a harddrive.
    
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If I were you I wouldn't buy a new computer yet. You can easily get by for another generation or 2 with the basic components that you have (and hold high frame rates to boot).

First of all, your CPU needs to be overclocked. I used to have a q6600, and the truth is they're slow processors compared to modern CPUs. OCing my G0 Q6600 to 3.6 was very tricky, so I'd aim for 3.4, or 3.2 at a minimum. This means you should invest in some proper cooling of course.

The GPU needs an upgrade, but 2x 6850s is simply not suitable for a Q6600 system. I'd get a single 6850 and either buy a 2nd one when you finally do build a new rig in 2 years or so, or (usually the more effective choice) simply ebay/craigslist it and move on to whatever crazy stuff they have out then.

If you OC your processors to at least 3.2, and upgrade to a single 6850, your FPS is going to more than double in the vast majority of games, this is why I say your system still has some life in it.
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i still think getting a GPU and a fast CPU and motherboard will vastly outshine an SSD and (Crappy) Cooler upgrade. He can always slap a nice cheap Hyper 212+ onto his i5 and get great temps and even more headroom. AND instead of worrying about trying to hit 3.6Ghz (at max) he is Guaranteed over 4ghz (with faster architecture) out the box. ALL OP needs is a Mobo and CPU he already has the ram.

There is no competition.

edit: at their current price point and on the OP's system. an SSD isn't a viable option anyways imo.
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i still think getting a GPU and a fast CPU and motherboard will vastly outshine an SSD and (Crappy) Cooler upgrade. He can always slap a nice cheap Hyper 212+ onto his i5 and get great temps and even more headroom. AND instead of worrying about trying to hit 3.6Ghz (at max) he is Guaranteed over 4ghz (with faster architecture) out the box. ALL OP needs is a Mobo and CPU he already has the ram.

There is no competition.
Have you even tried a system using a fast SSD compared to a Harddrive??
    
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Have you even tried a system using a fast SSD compared to a Harddrive??
nope, but my hard-drive works just fine. There has never been a time where afew miliseconds has upset me.

Okay, I've used a Hard-drive from 2006 recently and the only reason i "upgraded" to the one i am using right now was because the old HDD had some cracking noises when it was loading large files. I noticed no difference in speed despite the superior specifications.

Programs always loaded fast, Games loaded fast everything loaded fast. would an SSD improve this speed? Yes, would it be noticeable? maybe, but still not worth it/ not Night and day.
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nope, but my hard-drive works just fine. There has never been a time where afew miliseconds has upset me.

Okay, I've used a Hard-drive from 2006 recently and the only reason i "upgraded" to the one i am using right now was because the old HDD had some cracking noises when it was loading large files. I noticed no difference in speed despite the superior specifications.

Programs always loaded fast, Games loaded fast everything loaded fast. would an SSD improve this speed? Yes, would it be noticeable? maybe, but still not worth it/ not Night and day.
Please don't write things you don't know. A good SSD will make a world of difference when compared to harddrives. As I've said, they can't be compared.

The biggest bottleneck for PC's have been the harddrives, since forever. SSD's is really what we needed.

Believe me, a Q6600@3.6GHz with a fast SSD will feel much faster then a 2500K with an old harddrive for regular use and loading games. No point investing in blazing fast CPU's for use with the old bottleneck, the harddrive.
    
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