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Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post
No matter how hard they try, living things can never be teleported and survive. It will be a copy of you, with your exact thoughts and looks. To everyone else it will seem the teleportation was successful, but YOU died. Your copy, will act like you until he teleports again or dies himself but you wouldn't be controlling him - he would be himself.

In short, teleportation could lower the human life to almost nothing, people will be teleporting constantly and dying in the process, but there will be no way to know because it will appear "successful" to everyone else.

If you make a copy of a file on your computer, it's the same file but it's not the SAME file.

Scary thought, I would never teleport. I'd teleport items though.
THIS! I always tried to tell people that, they never get it. Same with with cloning. It's not YOU. But everyone else will think it is.
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Chief O'Brien, three to beam up.
    
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post #43 of 155
so they sent a fax and destroyed the original. Very high tech there. Teleportation isn't supposed to be destroy one thing and recreate it somewhere else. tHat is called cut and paste. It is to actually move it from one place to another. Not destroy one thing and then recreate something new somewhere else. This method would limit the amount of times something could be sent as the copy is never as good as the original. You need to actually disassemble and reassemble the original to actually teleport something. Not take a picture destroy the original and make something similar on the other end. good try though.
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Sheldon: Here's the problem with teleportation.
Leonard: Lay it on me.
Sheldon: Assuming a device could be invented, which would identify the quantum state of matter of an individual in one location and transmit that pattern to a distant location for reassembly. You would not have actually transported the individual, you would have destroyed him in one location and recreated him in another.
Leonard: How about that.
Sheldon: Personally, I would never use a transporter because the original Sheldon would have to be dissintegrated in order to create a new Sheldon.
Leonard: Would the new Sheldon be in any way an improvement on the old Sheldon?
Sheldon: No, he would be exactly the same.
Leonard: That is a problem
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post #45 of 155
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Destroying light in one place and recreating it in another doesn't sound like teleportation. It sounds like making a copy and destroying the original.
Yep, this is not for human use only data.
Destroying the original person and cloning a new one. The subject would be dead 100% of the time.
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post #46 of 155
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So in simplest terms, they switched a light off in one spot and turned on a light in another spot. But seriously, destroying and recreating doesn't sound to great, Im sure some pirates will figure out how to avoid the destroying phase and just do the recreating, Will there be dupeing in real life soon? YAY!
This reminds me of "The Prestige" with Christian Bale and Hugh Jackman. Anyone seen this movie?
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I have to agree with a few others above us. We have no way to tell if its successful or if its a kill and copy type of thing.

Think about it, if we could clone ourselves exactly, and implant our memories and everything into it. It will be a 100% copy of us, but we will still exist, and have our own consciousness and such or "soul" or whatever you want to say it is. But if we killed the original, does that mean we start living from the clone? No. I think thats how others are thinking about it, sure it will be 100% physically you and have all your memories, but it aint you. They wouldn't know it, you wouldn't know it (cause you'd cease to exist, as from the moment you went to get teleported, you died, black, nothing, like going unconscious without dreaming forever, its over man, GAME OVER) But the copy coming out the other end will honest to god believe he is you, and why wouldn't he? He has your memories, your body, your everything... Still doesn't mean its you. Simple as that. I don't care how far the tech comes, I won't step into anything like that.
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post #48 of 155
meh old news

flux capacitors have been around since the 80's
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IF they could make it so communications are handled this way instead of with sats then we would not have to worry so much about Solar flares knocking out all the sats and crippling us. Most people have no idea how much we are dependant on sats these days in our daily lives.
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Just my way of explaining it, but the way I see this is that you die, FOREVER, when you enter the teleporter. Then someone entirely new steps out of the teleporter, and says, "WOW, that worked awesome!" There is some force in nature that binds "you" to your body. Until scientists know what that is, the connection between you and your body may be broken with this telporter. If it can be called a soul, how will your soul reattach to the body coming out of the teleporter, or will a new soul be created by the teleporter? And how would someone else ever know? The new body stepping out would have every memory you ever had, and a seamless existence, but your existence would have stopped when you entered the teleporter.

Think of the movie The Prestige. The "teleported man" made a copy in a new location, and the original had to be killed with every trick. The copy then went on to perform the next trick, and so on.
While I understand what you are saying and I agree with the overall sentiment there is no proof of any soul or anything else binding you to your body. Your mind/Consciousness is your brain, we understand this fairly well and there is no reason to assume there is anything more then that. That being said I still agree it wouldn't be "you" stepping out of the transporter but that has everything to do with the fact that it is a copy and no matter how exact it still is a copy and the original "you" would be essentially destroyed.
Edited by scyy - 4/17/11 at 11:46am
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