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The power problem doesn't affect everybody, and if it does blow then you RMA. I personally haven't had a problem with the VRM thing.

I say get the 570 if you can. You have to OC the 560 to the max to get stock 570 settings, and each mhz OC on the 570 pays out more with more cores. Basically an OC 570 beats an OC 560 every time.
First off, getting a TFIII is better due to extra cooling, also, no duh, a higher card with better specs OC'd will out perform a OC'd lower card.
    
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post #32 of 84
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Mine runs 3D just fine on my stepdads monitor, which is only 120Hz, and I'm using a 460.
Let me rephrase..neither a 560 nor 570 will be able to push 120 FPS consistently to run a 3D monitor the way it is intended.
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Let me rephrase..neither a 560 nor 570 will be able to push 120 FPS consistently to run a 3D monitor the way it is intended.
You don't need 120FPS to use 3D though, you only need the higher refresh rate to show 60Hz for both pictures, hell even a 60Hz monitor could do it at 30FPS.
    
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Voltage should never be a limiting factor, it should be heat. Even when the vrm are ice cold they still explode. Look at the referance 470, 480, and 580, they take voltage fine and do well at subzero conditions. When a graphics vrm explode even at subzero, something is very wrong with that design. Even if the vrms on the 570 are properly cooled they still explode. There is something obviously wrong with the 570 power design. Note not all 570's vrms will explode at certain time , not every card is truly equal. Though its safe to say most 570s are at risk of vrm failure even with the smallest overclocks, something to consider when looking at a referance 570.
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I own a 560 and use 1080p. I don't think a single 560 would be a good choice for 1080p 3D gaming or 120hz. I could get 120hz in some games, but with almost zero AA or other special graphic processing. 560's SLI would be great. I'd probably opt for the 2GB version though. I don't know, I'm not familiar with 3D, maybe it doesn't requite much vRAM. 1GB is fine for normal 1080p though.
    
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Don't buy a 570 unless it has an altered power phase system..DirectCu, Twin Frozr III, Phantom..
Why not?
So we hear more exaggerated stories on the internet and people like you blowing things way out of proportion?
Most 570's overclock fine if you don't exceed the recommended max voltage.

The new power phase models are for people who want to push the limits....
and they are quite awesome.
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Why not?
So we hear more exaggerated stories on the internet and people like you blowing things way out of proportion?
Most 570's overclock fine if you don't exceed the recommended max voltage.

The new power phase models are for people who want to push the limits....
and they are quite awesome.
Better cooling on the new phase ones, plus it's just a precaution.
    
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Voltage should never be a limiting factor, it should be heat.
Lol what?
Heat is caused my voltage.
There will always be heat.

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Even when the vrm are ice cold they still explode.
Ice cold huh?


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There is something obviously wrong with the 570 power design.
And what is that?
When people exceed the recommended voltage they damage the card?

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Though its safe to say most 570s are at risk of vrm failure even with the smallest overclocks,
Wrong.
Your just another kiddy riding the overplayed 570 VRM wave of failure and noobishness.
9/10 overclock just fine.

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something to consider when looking at a referance 570.
Reference.
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post #39 of 84
For gaming at 1600x1200 a 560 is more than adequate.

If you want to plan ahead for 3D gaming at 1080p, neither card is really going to satisfy your needs alone in demanding titles. You'll either want to go SLI or (depending on the timeframe) grab a more powerful Kepler card.
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Why not?
So we hear more exaggerated stories on the internet and people like you blowing things way out of proportion?
Most 570's overclock fine if you don't exceed the recommended max voltage.

The new power phase models are for people who want to push the limits....
and they are quite awesome.
Read the thread I linked..plenty of people blowing the VRMs without disabling OCP or BIOS unlocking volts..

I understand people are defensive over the card, and that's fine. If you have it and it works then good for you, but there's no reason for people who have not spent their money yet to take a gamble on a card when there are rock solid bets out there at the same price point.
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