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Originally Posted by xxdarkreap3rxx View Post

How do you people buy anything with VAT? Prices are so ridiculous for hardware and anything over there, I don't think your average salaries are that much higher to offset it, are they?
In fact, Hardware prices at much higher than in the US, but salaries are much lower (I don't know exactly about the rest of EU, but in Slovakia average monthly salary is about 800€ ~ $900). I get really pissed off when I see for example gtx960 msrp 200-220 usd, but in here it is more like 250 eur, which is close to $300. As you can see, you cant really compare those prices.
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It all depends on which country you look at, but there are simply to many factors to say something is expensive somewhere and inexpensive somewhere else. That said Something like the Income Index and a list of income equality should indicate the price differences somewhat.

All I know is that here it's not really that bad even though I pay 25% taxes on all products purchased (more on some products and less on others), so really it depends a lot.
Edited by Rainmaker91 - 6/14/15 at 4:39am
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post #10973 of 20974
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Originally Posted by Mark Huntsman View Post

In fact, Hardware prices at much higher than in the US, but salaries are much lower (I don't know exactly about the rest of EU, but in Slovakia average monthly salary is about 800€ ~ $900). I get really pissed off when I see for example gtx960 msrp 200-220 usd, but in here it is more like 250 eur, which is close to $300. As you can see, you cant really compare those prices.
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Originally Posted by Rainmaker91 View Post

It all depends on which country you look at, but there are simply to many factors to say something is expensive somewhere and inexpensive somewhere else. That said Something like the Income Index and a list of income equality should indicate the price differences somewhat.

All I know is that here it's not really that bad even though I pay 25% taxes on all products purchased (more on some products and less on others), so really it depends a lot.

here we have average salary about $100 and after all taxes we pay 20% VAT so keep calm and have a good day $)
post #10974 of 20974
Pump advice please!
As my build will be external, loop up to 3meters with a couple 90* adaptors in it, Im guessing I will need something fairly powerful.
I have ordered a 7A variable voltage regulator to provide an adjustable 12V supply for pump and fans.

Would the EK-D5 Vario X-TOP or the EK-DCP 4.0 PWM be best suited?
I dont have a PWM enabled Mobo or Fan controller, will that be an issue?
Thank you for your thoughts!
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post #10975 of 20974
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Pump advice please!
As my build will be external, loop up to 3meters with a couple 90* adaptors in it, Im guessing I will need something fairly powerful.
I have ordered a 7A variable voltage regulator to provide an adjustable 12V supply for pump and fans.

Would the EK-D5 Vario X-TOP or the EK-DCP 4.0 PWM be best suited?
I dont have a PWM enabled Mobo or Fan controller, will that be an issue?
Thank you for your thoughts!
Go with what you have money for. I got my self d5 and I'm happy with it. My system have 3 ek blocks and dual 200mm rad plus d5 with x-res100
post #10976 of 20974
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Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post

Ahhh but what if I were to remove them and install shorter cables in their place and swap them over if the pump fails for mechanical wear not electrical? Probably same answer but it's worth exploring. smile.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

Just run them for a while and shorten them.! Walk o
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Originally Posted by BugBash View Post

Pump advice please!
As my build will be external, loop up to 3meters with a couple 90* adaptors in it, Im guessing I will need something fairly powerful.
I have ordered a 7A variable voltage regulator to provide an adjustable 12V supply for pump and fans.

Would the EK-D5 Vario X-TOP or the EK-DCP 4.0 PWM be best suited?
I dont have a PWM enabled Mobo or Fan controller, will that be an issue?
Thank you for your thoughts!

get the D5 as it is more powerful than the DCP pump and quieter..
post #10977 of 20974
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Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post

Ahhh but what if I were to remove them and install shorter cables in their place and swap them over if the pump fails for mechanical wear not electrical? Probably same answer but it's worth exploring. smile.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

Just run them for a while and short
post #10978 of 20974
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Originally Posted by BugBash View Post

Pump advice please!
As my build will be external, loop up to 3meters with a couple 90* adaptors in it, Im guessing I will need something fairly powerful.
I have ordered a 7A variable voltage regulator to provide an adjustable 12V supply for pump and fans.

Would the EK-D5 Vario X-TOP or the EK-DCP 4.0 PWM be best suited?
I dont have a PWM enabled Mobo or Fan controller, will that be an issue?
Thank you for your thoughts!

I would take the D5 everytime thumb.gif
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post #10979 of 20974
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If I could add something. Straight Run help provide a better Flow (Granted you don't have 100 or more 90Degree fittings) Not saying that Curved runs are much of a difference.


An Example If I can Find some Pics of my First Runs in my 750D. I didn't just do it for Looks.
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Now I added another Rad but I wanted to make the Runs as short As I could.
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TCO

I've Done better work but this was my baby, A ton of Trial and Error in this 750D.

Thanks for the input. Now that I have the basics down I'm just trying to start honing the specifics of a loop and see why others decide to do certain things. I know its a lot of trial and error though, may just have to break down and buy some angles to try them, every loop is different in its own way.
 
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Originally Posted by BugBash View Post

Pump advice please!
As my build will be external, loop up to 3meters with a couple 90* adaptors in it, Im guessing I will need something fairly powerful.
I have ordered a 7A variable voltage regulator to provide an adjustable 12V supply for pump and fans.

Would the EK-D5 Vario X-TOP or the EK-DCP 4.0 PWM be best suited?
I dont have a PWM enabled Mobo or Fan controller, will that be an issue?
Thank you for your thoughts!

I don't think you're supposed to use less than 12 volts for pumps. That's why they make vario and pwm versions. Not sure if that's a manufacturers thing or what, I just remember reading that somewhere. I could be wrong.
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