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another question.... ;-)
how much space is there between the horizontal ports 1+2 to the ground, when the res is fixed with the res-holders horizontal to a groundplate



Edited by Mattmax - 1/20/16 at 5:58am
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another question.... ;-)
how much space is there between the horizontal ports 1+2 to the ground, when the res is fixed with the res-holders horizontal to a groundplate

Nope, One question only sucker.

Joking ... its about 20mm or just slightly under according to my callipers.
Edited by Jakusonfire - 1/20/16 at 7:00am
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...Exchanging glances

Wondering in the night, what were the chances... biggrin.gif

Lol it was a little before my time but good song. biggrin.gif

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It baffles me that they continue to make those horrid colors on such popular fans. I mean those colors don't go with anything anytime.
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It baffles me that they (Noctua) continue to make those horrid colors on such popular fans. I mean those colors don't go with anything anytime.

And the Sanyo Denki Silent Type-S 9S1212M4011s are so much more decibel efficient than the Noctuas. A nice alternative for inaudible builds.

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I really have no idea why anyone buys Noctuas fans and suffers with that color, or buys the extremely loud versions in black and dark brown, when ideal low rpm fans in a nice monotone have existed for years. Industrial version is a marketing ploy on their part, the real enterprise buyers do not purchase Noctua fans, they purchase Delta and Nidec, and Sanyo and Panaflo.

http://www.sanyo-denki.com/

It must be the packaging and accessory bundle and the unboxing experience, some enthusiasts really enjoy that which Noctua offers and their customer support is phenomenal. The Noctua heat sinks are outstanding also.

But after all that you're really only left with in my opinion a substandard fan molded in an ugly aesthetic.

But this is the EK club so don't want to delve any deeper than that.

I prefer Sanyo Denki and the EK Vardar 120ERs.

I'm only hanging on by a thread to my Vardar 140ERs, beginning what will most likely become a multi RMA experience tomorrow, thankful I only need quantity (2) for my build.


a pic of some newly arrived Sanyo fans from last year with my then CaseLabs S8 two-tone with EK Xres in the front window, sniff sniff, I miss that build so much. sad-smiley-002.gif


Check out that SSD RAID0 positioning, yea it was a bit odd at an angle like that, but I loved it.




The day we said goodbye to the Mercury S8, we took photos, it was a very sad goodbye driving him over to his new home with my future father in law, and the EK Xres in the front window waving back at us, still looking for a place to call home. sad-smiley-002.gif

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Nope, One question only sucker.

Joking ... its about 20mm or just slightly under according to my callipers.

Thanks, but as I read your answer I thought 20mm is a little bit to small. So, at home I designed it and my information is that the space is somthing about 53mm!
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I stuck my res on with sticky tape so there's not a lot of space.
I really like my cheapo fill port though - just an extender with a cap on it. Got to lie my computer flat...

I also like the EK vardar 120er, but also have problems with ticks. I had to set the speed profiles super carefully with my corsair link to avoid the noisy revs.

Oh!
Same with my brand new pump! Between 2100 and 2600 revs it has a super annoying drone, like a resonance.
Anyone else had this problem??
My last D5 was totally silent at all revs...




Edited by surfinchina - 1/20/16 at 11:18pm
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I stuck my res on with sticky tape so there's not a lot of space.
I really like my cheapo fill port though - just an extender with a cap on it. Got to lie my computer flat...

I also like the EK vardar 120er, but also have problems with ticks. I had to set the speed profiles super carefully with my corsair link to avoid the noisy revs.

Oh!
Same with my brand new pump! Between 2100 and 2600 revs it has a super annoying drone, like a resonance.
Anyone else had this problem??
My last D5 was totally silent at all revs...

yeah i have the same problem with my brand new xres revo d5 pwm, between 30 and 45% speed there is a very deep background noise and above 50% (2200rpm and above) there is a very high pitched background noise. at 48 to 50% (2100rpm) the sound changes from low to high so it hits a frequency it cant really hear so i just leave it at that but i was a little disappointed...
i dont hear any "pumping noises" until like 70% speed but there is always some kind of background "whining". Glad im not the only one with this problem. rolleyes.gif
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@surfchina, nice res mount mod, I like that. I may be doing a fan silicon rad gasket velcro soft mount soon. biggrin.gif

@surfchina and Oxzz, both you guys. thumb.gif


Never heard any high frequency sounds from my two D5s except when some air remained within the pump top while filling the loop.

Mostly the noises I heard at first were low frequency hum and rumble which drives me nuts so I isolated my D5 to complete silence using two EK UNI mounts and four 3/4inch sorbothane feet.

It’s not so difficult to isolate a D5 to complete inaudibility if you simply make certain that no portion of the pump or pump top make any hard contact with any part of your case or any other component part other than the isolation material you are using.

In my set up those isolation materials are the four sorbo feet mentioned above and soft tubing filled with coolant which also acts to absorb/isolate low frequency noise.

You have to look at what you are building, what components are in hard contact or hard communication, those components will transmit the noise energy and must be considered a single assembly when building.

In this second photo, my D5, EK plexi pump top, two monsoon fittings, and the AquaComputer thermal sensor are all in hard communication and are the “single assembly” that must be isolated. You also need to think of the direction of the forces, my assembly is simply resting on the sorbo feet and EK UNI mounts by gravity alone, no hard mounting allowed if you want absolute inaudibility.

That assembly does not make contact with any other component in the build except the noise absorbing sorbothane feet and soft tubing filled with coolant.

Does that mean my D5 is completely inaudible up to 100% power or 5000rpm? No, my set up in these photos is only inaudible up to 50% power or 3500rpm, but that’s fine since with the short “CPU only” loop I’m running I never need to use the pump beyond 35% PWR, above that speed there is no cooling benefit for the CPU.

For those with larger longer loops including many more components that need to run an everyday D5 rotational speed above 50% power, then more robust noise-energy absorption can easily be designed, moving to larger diameter sorbothane feet, OR getting the material in sheets and cutting it custom to fit your setup.

Sound expensive? It’s not too bad, The Sorbothane feet are a dollar each so $4. They make you buy a pack of 16, so save the extra 12 for the next build, I put 2 under the front of my keyboard, perfect for raising it up to just the right angle.

http://www.amazon.com/Sorbothane-No-Stain-Hemisphere-Non-skid-Adhesive/dp/B005I5PMC8/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1453392859&sr=8-15&keywords=sorbothane+hemispheres

And the two EK UNI mounts work extremely well. The D5 housing slips down into the hole in the EK mount and none of the D5 makes contact with the mount since that would violate tongue.gif the rules of noise energy isolation and transmit the noise.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/ek-uni-holder-d5-v3.html

These two pics show the sorbo feet "in action" and an overhead view of the single assembly that needed to be isolated.




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