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Originally Posted by Astrobleme View Post



Greetings Overclockers!
Not sure if this is the right thread to post in or not but here goes.

Planning on using EK everything. Blocks fittings the whole 9 yards.

Going to be housing all the stuff roughly outlined above in a case labs sma8 with an additional pedestal.

This rig is mainly for the experience of building a custom loop. Want to graduate out of baby's first AIO. Noise level Is not a factor. If the case sounds like a wind tunnel it gets bonus points. thumb.gif I want the loop to keep the cpu and gpus as close to ambient as physics will allow at all times. Don't have any plans on overclocking yet.

Time for 20 questions woohoo!

Is it bad to have 3 reservoirs feed into a single inlet like that? I know I don't need 3 reservoirs, 1 is plenty for a single loop. But I like the look.

Will the reservoirs be drained equally over time? I'd like to avoid uneven visible coolant levels if possible.

Do I need more than 1,500 L/H the EK-XTOP Revo Dual D5 PWM Serial gives?

Can Reservoirs return from the loop be filled at the bottom?

Does the return feed have to go to the top of the reservoir?

I plan on having mounting 8 EK-Furious Vardar FF4-140 to the two 140x4 rads. They will on a separate toggle switch for when I really want to kick the engines to 11.

Will having fans not currently in use cause so much drag on normal TT riing 14's that is not even worth having a second set on standby and just keep all fans on?

Where would the best location for a T line out to a drain valve be? The lowest point in the system is going to be the bottom 140 inlet.

I know there have been recalls on the predator aio. Don't want to invest a bunch of money into kit that I'll have a hard time fighting CS over whatever problems arise. How would you rate EK compared to all other water cooling manufacturers on the market in terms of product support?

Can I mix rigid and soft tubing through the loop? I just want hard tubing between the two gpu blocks. Without using the terminal products.

What is the hands down best 3/4" soft tubing ek offers in the shop? Plan on using their Blood red concentrate. Don't want to be dealing with discoloration or growths inside the tubes.

Thanks all for your time,
Astro

imo there is absolutely no reason to make a loop that complicated, even if its just for ascetics, its just way too much.
 
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post #13983 of 20780
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Originally Posted by Jidonsu View Post

Does anyone know
Are you using the optical cages or hard drive cages? I assume something is being removed if you're using the 360.

If you have them removed, you can fit two PE360s in there.

Here's a build done in a Define S. The interior dimensions are practically identical.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1570312/build-log-fractal-define-s-x99-980-sli-watercooled-lf-reaction-reservoir


Nope just SSD-s and no opticals, glad to hear 2x 360 will fit, 240mm didnt just feel right. thank you thumb.gif
Really loving the T-Virus res aswell, might get one for myself aswell.
Edited by outofmyheadyo - 1/29/16 at 11:09pm
post #13984 of 20780
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Originally Posted by Astrobleme View Post



Greetings Overclockers!
Not sure if this is the right thread to post in or not but here goes.

Planning on using EK everything. Blocks fittings the whole 9 yards.

Going to be housing all the stuff roughly outlined above in a case labs sma8 with an additional pedestal.

This rig is mainly for the experience of building a custom loop. Want to graduate out of baby's first AIO. Noise level Is not a factor. If the case sounds like a wind tunnel it gets bonus points. thumb.gif I want the loop to keep the cpu and gpus as close to ambient as physics will allow at all times. Don't have any plans on overclocking yet.
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Time for 20 questions woohoo!

Is it bad to have 3 reservoirs feed into a single inlet like that? I know I don't need 3 reservoirs, 1 is plenty for a single loop. But I like the look.

Will the reservoirs be drained equally over time? I'd like to avoid uneven visible coolant levels if possible.

Do I need more than 1,500 L/H the EK-XTOP Revo Dual D5 PWM Serial gives?

Can Reservoirs return from the loop be filled at the bottom?

Does the return feed have to go to the top of the reservoir?

I plan on having mounting 8 EK-Furious Vardar FF4-140 to the two 140x4 rads. They will on a separate toggle switch for when I really want to kick the engines to 11.

Will having fans not currently in use cause so much drag on normal TT riing 14's that is not even worth having a second set on standby and just keep all fans on?

Where would the best location for a T line out to a drain valve be? The lowest point in the system is going to be the bottom 140 inlet.

I know there have been recalls on the predator aio. Don't want to invest a bunch of money into kit that I'll have a hard time fighting CS over whatever problems arise. How would you rate EK compared to all other water cooling manufacturers on the market in terms of product support?

Can I mix rigid and soft tubing through the loop? I just want hard tubing between the two gpu blocks. Without using the terminal products.

What is the hands down best 3/4" soft tubing ek offers in the shop? Plan on using their Blood red concentrate. Don't want to be dealing with discoloration or growths inside the tubes.

Thanks all for your time,
Astro


That's a pretty aggressive project you have envisioned.

As a new poster with no track record to give us an idea of your experience/skill level, it's hard to make much of a critique . . . . But . . . for some general thoughts . . .

When it comes to aesthetics in general, the SMA8, especially with a pedestal, lends itself particularly well to dual loops.

It lets you set up a nice size loop, rad space wise, in the top area, and optionally the flex bays, for the CPU and mobo blocks, and be able to keep the tubing runs fairly short and segregated within that general area of the case.

The second loop, for the GPUs, then has the lower space and ped for the rads, and that keeps the tubing runs fairly short and segregated to that area.


To run everything with a single loop, while quite doable with a dual D5 pump, isn't likely to look as clean and orderly because of the top to bottom tubing runs.

It will also be harder to bleed and drain than either of the loops would be in a dual system, and require draining the whole thing for any issue, instead of just the affected loop.


With the SMA8, you're pretty limited to 2 reservoirs if you have a rad in the front, although without it, you could probably get three.

Running res's in parallel works OK, but using top return ensures less stagnation issues, and the way you manage the plumbing could be important.


Darlene


Here's a pic of a dual parallel res setup for a single loop (red) and a dual parallel res - dual loop setup (white and blue) all on dual D5 pumps for each pair of res's, so there's some pretty unique ways to make parallel res schemes happen.



Edited by IT Diva - 1/30/16 at 5:09am
post #13985 of 20780
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What seems to be your boggle?

Awesome film!


Mello Greetings,


This new 6700K seems to defy science and all known laws of thermodynamics. (maybe) smile.gif

Two days ago, hoping possibly to drop under 20C (19C or 18C) at idle once this CPU goes underwater with a monoblock or EVO, but this morning while still on air here it is! Snapped the ambient air temp right after the CPUID HWMonitor screenshot, then the setup shot 1,2,3.

Only change (delta smile.gif) from last reading was swapping out the Vardar 120mm ER to the 150mm Noctua fan that arrived with the NH-D15, and switched the digital thermometer over to Celsius.

Perhaps during the delidding, the guy from Siliconlottery ran out of CoolLabs liquid metal and used a cold generating orphaned nuclear isotope, after all he is a highly skilled man inspiring “joy-joy feelings” in all those around him. tongue.gif

Gotta go, that coffee went right through me, gotta remember how to use those three sea shells? tongue.gif







     
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Is my DDC 3.2 PWM enough for cpu block, gpu block, and 2 thick 360mm rads?

https://shop.ekwb.com/ek-xtop-ddc-3-2-pwm-elite-plexi-incl-pump

Im assuming it is but just wanted to make sure.
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Is my DDC 3.2 PWM enough for cpu block, gpu block, and 2 thick 360mm rads?

https://shop.ekwb.com/ek-xtop-ddc-3-2-pwm-elite-plexi-incl-pump

Im assuming it is but just wanted to make sure.

Yes absolutely.
 
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shud be you get same OC room also,

Cheers Juha
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As a new poster with no track record to give us an idea of your experience/skill level, it's hard to make much of a critique . . . . But . . . for some general thoughts . . .

Yeah maybe to aggressive. After my 980ti strix gpus melted down on stock everything (waiting on rma to finish as to what the problem is) I decided to finally pull the trigger and go full custom. I suspect some of the cables from the fan shroud shorted on the heat pipes. Can't melt fan cables if there are no fans to control. biggrin.gif

Been reading/watching all kinds of water cooling things for about 4 months now.
Only have installed a corsair h105 as practical "water cooling" experience though.

Dual loops sound cool and all but I'm kinda hesitant it sounds like I need a lot more fittings for that. Don't want my inexperience to introduce twice as many failure points just for the sake of having multiple loops.

From what I've read anyways it's better to have everything on one loop as all parts will eventually stabilize and having all rads cooling all parts is better than a uneven distribution of blocks to rads through separate loops. Not sure if that has changed been seeing all kinds of info on best practices with some links going as far back to the early 2000s.

Would having the res's mounted horizontally and having the in and out on the same res top or bottom help prevent stagnation?

As far as what I've been told by case labs support is that there is 360mm between the front panel and the sma8 mobo tray. I figured 240mm for res's + 51mm for rad and fans. Not sure if I'm overlooking something.

I'm going to be running a majority of the loop behind the mobo tray like I've seen on some build logs. Then using EK-AF Pass-Through everywhere a tube run needs to go inside the main chambers. Unless there are clearance issues with 3/4" tubes that I haven't read about.

As far as a blocks go I plan on using these:
x1 EK-Supremacy EVO - Full Nickel
x2 EK-FC980 GTX Ti Strix - Nickel with the nickle back plate
post #13990 of 20780
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Mello Greetings,


This new 6700K seems to defy science and all known laws of thermodynamics. (maybe) smile.gif

Two days ago, hoping possibly to drop under 20C (19C or 18C) at idle once this CPU goes underwater with a monoblock or EVO, but this morning while still on air here it is! Snapped the ambient air temp right after the CPUID HWMonitor screenshot, then the setup shot 1,2,3.

Only change (delta smile.gif) from last reading was swapping out the Vardar 120mm ER to the 150mm Noctua fan that arrived with the NH-D15, and switched the digital thermometer over to Celsius.

Perhaps during the delidding, the guy from Siliconlottery ran out of CoolLabs liquid metal and used a cold generating orphaned nuclear isotope, after all he is a highly skilled man inspiring “joy-joy feelings” in all those around him. tongue.gif

Gotta go, that coffee went right through me, gotta remember how to use those three sea shells? tongue.gif








Everything about this post made my day! Glad to see the Demo Man references are still going strong as well smile.gif
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